Playing a Character specializing in Throwing Axes, it would be very nice if they didn't weigh as much. I just tested it in the Toolset and with the "Bonus Weight Reduction" you can reduce the weight. Perhaps, a lighter weight, and a minus to damage?
In a realistic sense (This is why arrows weigh 0 pounds) you could just go pick up an axe after you throw it.
I've played a character who used these as a main weapon way back. You really do need quite a bit of strength and not to be using much in the ways of armor! I think it's nice that they're so cumbersome, makes it that bit more impressive when somebody uses them.
What I used to do was carry 3 stacks of axes and two stacks of darts for when I run out!
Goblin Butcher I've played a character who used these as a main weapon way back. You really do need quite a bit of strength and not to be using much in the ways of armor! I think it's nice that they're so cumbersome, makes it that bit more impressive when somebody uses them.What I used to do was carry 3 stacks of axes and two stacks of darts for when I run out!
Yep. The strength bonus from being a throwing weapon makes these awesome. It's basically like having a +infinity shortbow. Having to lug around the weight to do it is only fair.
Just as an interesting idea for you crazy kids, there is no limit on the +damage from strength (as far as I know, at least!). A barbarian using rage + standard buffs + rapid shot is an incredible combination. Plus, sick HP and you can frontline if needed.
NEVER!
They rock hard enough as it is.
Yeah, well the lighter ones wouldn't rock as much.
Garem Yep. The strength bonus from being a throwing weapon makes these awesome. It's basically like having a +infinity shortbow. Having to lug around the weight to do it is only fair.
You still aren't getting the point. 99 Arrows, are 1 gp, and weigh -zero- pounds. The reason this is, is because, in a D&D sense you'd be able to pick up your arrows, and take them out of foes. I'm merely asking that the same can be done with the axes (Not 0 pounds, just a little lighter). You think someone can really carry around 7 stacks of 99 arrows? I've seen people with over 10.
Just a suggestion, I'm currently pursuing ways for them to be made IG.
Why tone them down, if they are already so awesome? Barbarians dont have much in the way of armor.
So what you're really saying is that we should increase the weight of arrows, right?
If you have a problem with carrying 7 stacks of 99 arrows, don't carry that many.
Throwing Axes being 1 pound each is very reasonable. Handaxes, which do the same damage and have the same size, are 5 pounds, so if you're really all about realism then Throwing Axes should weigh more (5 pounds), not less.
lovethesuit If you have a problem with carrying 7 stacks of 99 arrows, don't carry that many.
That wasn't my point. What I was saying is that.. the reason you -can- carry 7 stacks of 99 arrows, is because you are able to go pick up the arrows after you use them.
IMO the weight could go down by half, merely because missile weapons in D&D use a retarded amount of ammo to actually kill something.
However, I think you're adding your own explanation concerning the 99arrow = 0lbs thing. The game doesn't make any mention that you do, could, should, or can recollect arrows.
btw, my rogue carried a -full- bag of Arrows and two quivers of bolts and like 8 things of sling stones in one bag. Total weight? 1lbs. Realism to the max, Whooo. And I know didn't recollect any of them.
I'm not inclined to accuse you of just making that up to support your argument, so I'll just ask if you have any evidence from the designers of the game to support this theory.
I'm afraid that regardless of the arrow argument, the same cannot be said for the axes; they are not meant to be picked up afterwards.
You can actually have a script that allows you to recollect throwing weapons, bullets, bolts and arrows. Not the point of this thread, but oh well!
As for throwing axes, I think it is reasonable to reduce their weight.
lovethesuit I'm not inclined to accuse you of just making that up to support your argument, so I'll just ask if you have any evidence from the designers of the game to support this theory.
I will keep looking around. I read it a year or so back on the Bioware forums where someone was complaining about the 0 pound weight of arrows.
Love, if you think an arrow has a better chance of surviving slamming into a full armored onrushing foe, then a slightly less durable axe... Mm, Anyway, allowing these items the chance to be picked up after the fight (should the script be implimented) would be an alternate solution to the weight issue.
Meldread You can actually have a script that allows you to recollect throwing weapons, bullets, bolts and arrows. Not the point of this thread, but oh well!As for throwing axes, I think it is reasonable to reduce their weight.
I believe I suggested this a while back and it was never implemented due to the potential serious lag.
Well alright then. I'm thinking it would be nice if throwing axes were available to more characters. How about this; You buy a "bag of throwing axes" for 50gp it weighs 50lbs but dispenses 10 stacks of throwing axes before vanishing, while realism is out the window, it may help with the weight issue without intensive scripting.
I support the selling of weight reduced throwing axes, or having stacks of 50 be dropped from spawns, perhaps even add Gnoll Throwing Axemen. You can add weight reduction to throwing axes.
/me cough
Yeah, they should be reasonably weighty (maybe 25 lbs) so they have considerable disadvantages compared to Shortbows. Otherwise they are effectively an infinitely Mighty shortbow you can use with a shield. Historically, I'd heard of them as Fransciscas, a shock weapon used while charging, like a sort of early hand grenade, not a stand-off weapon you'd carry a lot of. It would be nice perhaps if they remained heavy but came in smaller stacks and had some decent bonuses.