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Title: EfU SC2 HOTS Tournament
Post by: Jayde Moon on March 20, 2013, 10:59:06 PM
With Heart of the Swarm out and the ability to play across regions, I think it's about time for an official EfU SC2 Tournament!

All interested parties sign up here!  We'll set up brackets and everything in a double elimination.

Winner gets bragging rights and perhaps something nice in the EfU world... ?

Sign up here over the next 5 days and we'll get brackets up and running and start in one week!!!

Current Participants:

Here are the brackets: http://challonge.com/EfUHOTS1

VODs

[hide="Round 1"]Winner's Bracket VODs

[hide="Talir v. HalflingPower"]EfU SC2: Talir vs Sunday G1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkJufl4KpMY)

AND

EfU SC2: Talir vs Sunday G2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OdSR3Xk0no)

AND

EfU SC2: Talir vs Sunday G3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)[/hide]

[hide="Caster v. Sternhund"]Caster vs Sternhund G1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chW8aNvv-PQ)

AND

Caster vs Sternhund G2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KKL5KubF6w)

AND

Caster vs Sternhund G3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnqL3ho5LwY)[/hide]

[hide="JaydeMoon v. VanillaPudding"]Game 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j5zTDIcF6Y&feature=youtu.be)

AND

Game 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGMIHBaX_us&feature=youtu.be)

AND

Game 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN183rJltNM)[/hide]

Loser's Bracket VODs

[hide="Caster v. VanillaPudding"]EfUSC2: Caster vs VanillaPudding G1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoInuBwsJoo)

AND

EfUSC2: Caster vs VanillaPudding G2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuVZ1Qa_oCM)

AND

EfUSC2: Caster vs VanillaPudding G3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg-4c4uQmdo)[/hide][/hide]

[hide="Round 2"]Winner's Bracket VODs

[hide="Crytalos v. HalflingPower"]Crytalos v. HalflingPower G1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btiyUOO2kNY)

AND

Crytalos v. HalflingPower G2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpWXJrA8BvE)

AND

Crytalos v. HalflingPower G3 (http://youtu.be/6QFwo57WKwg)[/hide]

[hide="JaydeMoon v. Sternhund"]Game 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubqzwaEbI0w&feature=youtu.be)

AND

Game 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF9D8MPzC9k&feature=youtu.be)

AND

Game 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1wG9g1wjSA&list=FLxLbRFp4JuxHjHU0n1QpORw&index=97)[/hide]

Loser's Bracket VODs

[hide="Talir v. JaydeMoon"]Talir vs Jaydemoon

Game 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs-Byxgk9iw)

Game 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDr3czyM6-I)

Game 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujz3evlUgsQ)[/hide]

[hide="Caster v. Crytalos"]Caster vs Crytalos

Game 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFB4GmaM9vg)

Game 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUKZKw50fcM)

Game 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_ENGbUSoCw)[/hide]

[/hide]

[hide="Semifinals"]Winner's Bracket VODs

[hide="HalflingPower v. Sternhund"]Game 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_BtJy6UCdU&feature=youtu.be)

Game 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVaI8AEOKVs&feature=youtu.be)

Game 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcJhHyjCXAY&feature=youtu.be)

Game 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fndeDfaWCg)

Game 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m7e7tCn7Bk)[/hide]

Loser's Bracket VODs

[hide="Talir v. Caster"]Game 1 (http://youtu.be/-8-oUQ4TD_k)

Game 2 (http://youtu.be/OaqhmpTb5lY)

Game 3 (http://youtu.be/3G7U2n5TP1k)

Game 4 (http://youtu.be/S7M3Bj5nXso)

Game 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=A5m_MDUCU0M#t=166s)[/hide][/hide]

[hide="Finals!"]Winner's Bracket VODs

[hide="Caster v. Sternhund"]Game 1: Casted (http://youtu.be/DfM5inilXP0), First Person (http://youtu.be/QN0uPkUlx0A)

Game 2: Casted (http://youtu.be/LL9EUasWJeA), First Person (http://youtu.be/JWO3fYldEtY)

Game 3: Casted (http://youtu.be/wZTLLn8hlHs), First Person (http://youtu.be/GDCmGu6I46k)

Game 4: Casted (http://youtu.be/LgVJCJAYC3Y), First Person (http://youtu.be/TI4ATib9l_s)

Game 5: Casted (http://youtu.be/UhK8nUvB6ro), First Person (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=twqM56f_cVo#t=40s)

Game 6: Casted (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtXlBbWeB4), First Person (http://youtu.be/rmLKr2NwmpI)

Game 7: Casted (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcQedw7R1zk), First Person (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg59q4puhmg)[/hide]

Loser's Bracket VODs

[hide="HalflingPower v. Caster"]Game 1 (http://youtu.be/Bu4Zp4gS2_Q)

Game 2 (http://youtu.be/e01z-zyWaTM)

Game 3 (http://youtu.be/rY2PWh7t_VY)

Game 4 (http://youtu.be/UJNDmfqMg5E)

Game 5 (http://youtu.be/25KABvPbq-U)[/hide]

Winner's Bracket VODs[/hide]
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Post by: RuinedDesires on March 21, 2013, 12:18:30 AM
Crytalos The Bronze noob!
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Post by: Sternhund on March 21, 2013, 12:56:38 AM
Don't bother signing up, 'cause you all know that I'm gonna win. ;)
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Post by: Caster13 on March 22, 2013, 03:05:03 PM
Oh really?
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Post by: Caster13 on March 22, 2013, 03:05:48 PM
Date and time? Or are we just going to play whenever we catch each other on B.net?
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Post by: HalflingPower on March 22, 2013, 03:25:34 PM
HalflingPower will participate
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Post by: Talir on March 22, 2013, 04:26:14 PM
I'm game.
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Post by: Jayde Moon on March 22, 2013, 05:27:06 PM
Quote from: Caster13;329668Date and time? Or are we just going to play whenever we catch each other on B.net?

This will be set up once we have the participants!!!
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Post by: HalflingPower on March 22, 2013, 05:40:01 PM
We need a player subforum to manage this entire affair in my opinion.
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Post by: Daemonic Daz on March 22, 2013, 11:25:15 PM
I will return to EFU for this escapade.
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Post by: Jayde Moon on March 23, 2013, 12:52:26 AM
I have edited the first post with the current interested parties.

SIGN UP!  If you are in EfU and play SC2, there is NO EXCUSE not to be in this tournament!!!

I know we have more than 7!!!
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Post by: Anton on March 23, 2013, 01:43:08 AM
What if you are really bad at Starcraft to the point where you are guaranteed to lose?
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Post by: Talir on March 23, 2013, 01:51:37 AM
You'll have to figure out if keeping away to avoid losing is better than joining this tournament to have fun. It isn't ranked(battlenet-wise) and the only risk lies in teasing from others who make other hilarious mistakes themselves. All in good nature.

Up to you, always.
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Post by: Jayde Moon on March 23, 2013, 01:54:16 AM
We all suck.

Except Caster.
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Post by: RuinedDesires on March 23, 2013, 02:11:22 AM
Join us in the next free for all, those things can be hilarious fun and a great learning experience!
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Post by: Big Orc Man on March 23, 2013, 02:21:22 AM
Hey Stardog.  Remember when I crushed you, Wern, and everyone else in Wings of Liberty?

Pretty sure this time Caster's going to be the one who punches you harder than life already has.
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Post by: Sternhund on March 23, 2013, 02:35:36 AM
Come at me, bro.
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Post by: Jayde Moon on March 25, 2013, 10:43:04 PM
One more day to sign up, then I'm gonna start setting up the (small?) brackets!
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Post by: RuinedDesires on March 26, 2013, 08:25:48 PM
It is sad that our Euro players are not representing! Paha and Gravenkiss, your leaving Talir and I, Hanging here!
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Post by: Ebok on March 26, 2013, 09:30:37 PM
Someone record the videos. I wanna watch, but I dont have time I learn to play again. It's been a looong time since my last SC romp.
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Post by: RuinedDesires on March 26, 2013, 09:43:53 PM
Surprisingly doesnt take too long Ebok, a few games with the other EFU players and go over the replays together. It helped me alot more than just spamming game after game! So much so, that after 3 years I beat Talir!
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Post by: Jayde Moon on March 28, 2013, 02:40:23 AM
Brackets are set up, after an abysmal showing of... SEVEN participants.

You guys are so disappointing!

In any case:

http://challonge.com/EfUHOTS1

Go there to see the brackets!

Games will be played in order from left to right.  Double elimination, best of 3, then best of 5 in the semifinals and best of 7 in the finals.

First game is between Talir and HalflingPower!!!
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Post by: Caster13 on March 28, 2013, 02:48:13 PM
Seems I'll need to brush up on my PvZ.
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Post by: Jayde Moon on March 28, 2013, 11:44:31 PM
HalflingPower/Rill... you are up to the plate w/ Talir.

Where are you, goon?
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Post by: HalflingPower on March 29, 2013, 01:55:09 AM
Sorry, was away for a little tiny bit.
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Post by: Jayde Moon on March 29, 2013, 01:57:21 AM
No problem.

How does tomorrow night GMT sound?  Like... around midnight GMT.

Will that work for you, Talir?
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Post by: Talir on March 29, 2013, 11:07:08 PM
Sounds good.
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Post by: Jayde Moon on April 02, 2013, 04:59:19 AM
The first casts are up!!!

Brought to you by casters JaydeMoon and Sternhund, the first set of games from the first Annual Monthly EfU SC2 Champeenship Tourney:

EfU SC2: Talir vs Sunday G1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkJufl4KpMY)

AND

EfU SC2: Talir vs Sunday G2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OdSR3Xk0no)

AND

EfU SC2: Talir vs Sunday G3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ)

And comments, likes, thumbs up, whatever, standard Youtube video stuff in the hopes that we're the next Husky Starcraft ;)
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Post by: Vlaid on April 02, 2013, 07:30:36 AM
The first two matches were pretty good!

The third one...

:(
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Post by: RuinedDesires on April 02, 2013, 12:10:27 PM
Chump ass character :o

Nice casting, still think you should cast game 3!
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Post by: Caster13 on April 02, 2013, 05:26:47 PM
Can't wait to watch the next casts!
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Post by: Jayde Moon on April 02, 2013, 10:11:46 PM
We need some artwork for the Youtube channel

Put on your artistic caps and follow these directions (http://support.google.com/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=en&topic=16630&ctx=topic&answer=2972003) and submit the art to:

efusc2@gmail.com

Something that combines the essence of EfU and SC2 would be wicked sweet.
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Post by: Sternhund on April 02, 2013, 11:41:17 PM
It's a masterpiece.

(http://i.imgur.com/tqWiyRg.png)
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Post by: Jayde Moon on April 03, 2013, 01:08:46 AM
It's supposed to be like... big.  I tried to do a banner that size and it told me to f off.
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Post by: Jayde Moon on April 03, 2013, 05:40:09 PM
Guys

Guys

Guys

Watch this:

Caster vs Sternhund G1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chW8aNvv-PQ)

And I'll post Games 2 and 3 later today!!!
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Post by: Caster13 on April 03, 2013, 06:18:27 PM
Woo!
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Post by: Jayde Moon on April 04, 2013, 12:47:51 AM
And here you go...

Caster vs Sternhund G2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KKL5KubF6w)
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Post by: Jayde Moon on April 04, 2013, 02:08:01 AM
And finally:

Caster vs Sternhund G3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnqL3ho5LwY)
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Post by: RuinedDesires on April 04, 2013, 06:31:55 PM
Amazing games!

For folks who play, dont be afraid to jump into the fun. We regularly play FFA and 1v1s to practice new builds and improve!

For those thinking about investing, id recommend it. A game can last anywhere from 10-45 mins so about the same as DOTA or LoL!
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Post by: Dremen on April 04, 2013, 09:08:26 PM
I suppose the Expansions are necessary to participate in the Tourney, but are they required for regular play?
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Post by: Jayde Moon on April 04, 2013, 09:38:03 PM
By expansions, you mean Heart of the Swarm (which is the only expansion)?

I think you can join the tournament without Heart of the Swarm, I believe that HOTS owners will revert to WOL for such a game.

And you can play without the Expansion, for normal play or against other players who don't have HOTS.
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Post by: Kinslayer988 on April 05, 2013, 03:54:43 AM
I finally got to hear the voice of Jayde and Stern
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Post by: Jayde Moon on April 05, 2013, 08:11:20 PM
Daemonic Daz must report in for his match before the end of this weekend, or he shall forfeit!
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Post by: Eighties Burnout on April 05, 2013, 10:32:22 PM
FOR THE SWARM!
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Post by: Caster13 on April 08, 2013, 01:26:20 PM
I'm getting antsy here. Bring on the next games!
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Post by: Jayde Moon on April 08, 2013, 02:03:45 PM
Daemonic Daz has opted out of the tournament.  Showing that he is a good sport, VanillaPudding has offered to step into Daz's spot, even though he only just got the game and has yet to learn how to actually play.

Just so you guys can have something to watch.

Casts will be up soon.
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Post by: Caster13 on April 08, 2013, 02:33:18 PM
Woo!
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Post by: Sternhund on April 09, 2013, 06:23:42 AM
JaydeMoon v. VanillaPudding

Game 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j5zTDIcF6Y&feature=youtu.be)

Game 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGMIHBaX_us&feature=youtu.be)

Game 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN183rJltNM)
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Post by: VanillaPudding on April 09, 2013, 07:06:32 AM
:X
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Post by: RuinedDesires on April 09, 2013, 01:09:29 PM
I can see VP becoming a real threat when he learns the metagame!
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Post by: Daemonic Daz on April 10, 2013, 04:40:11 PM
So sorry I couldn't attend, unfortunately having to eat came above having to own.

My esteemed thanks to VP for stepping in.
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Post by: Jayde Moon on April 11, 2013, 04:56:27 AM
SAH WEET!

EfUSC2: Caster vs VanillaPudding G1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoInuBwsJoo)

EfUSC2: Caster vs VanillaPudding G2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuVZ1Qa_oCM)

AND

EfUSC2: Caster vs VanillaPudding G3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg-4c4uQmdo)

Thus ends round 1.

Round 2 kicks off soon with Crytalos vs HalflingPower.
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Post by: Caster13 on April 11, 2013, 01:08:56 PM
In game two, I didn't realize VanillaPudding was zerg which was why I didn't wall off >_>
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Post by: Ebok on April 11, 2013, 10:31:49 PM
These are fun to watch.

>_>

I had to upgrade my computer to play SCII Heart of the Swarm, but I upgraded too far apparently, and I can no longer run NWN. I'll be around eventually for these types of things, even though I have no inkling of the metagame involved anymore.
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Post by: Sternhund on April 16, 2013, 09:50:44 PM
HalflingPower & Crytalos... hurry up!
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Post by: RuinedDesires on April 16, 2013, 10:19:30 PM
Tomorrow night its all arranged! About 24 hours and 20 mins from this post! Get your popcorn it should be more entertaining live!
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Post by: Sternhund on April 20, 2013, 12:47:26 PM
It's finally here! JaydeMoon was out so these are casted by myself and the ever wonderful Caster.

Crytalos v. HalflingPower G1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btiyUOO2kNY)

Crytalos v. HalflingPower G2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpWXJrA8BvE)

Crytalos v. HalflingPower G3 (http://youtu.be/6QFwo57WKwg)

I made a mistake in the casts. Loser of these matches goes on to fight Caster!
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Post by: Sternhund on April 20, 2013, 03:15:33 PM
I'm silly and G1 didn't fully upload so the last bit was cutoff. The link is updated, G1 should be situated in about an hour.
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Post by: Daemonic Daz on April 20, 2013, 07:50:40 PM
I hope to have HotS in a week, so watch out! :)
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Post by: Sternhund on April 24, 2013, 04:16:58 PM
JaydeMoon v. Sternhund

Game 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubqzwaEbI0w&feature=youtu.be)

Game 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF9D8MPzC9k&feature=youtu.be)

Game 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1wG9g1wjSA&list=FLxLbRFp4JuxHjHU0n1QpORw&index=97)

If you are any of the next 3 matches just play them as fast as you can and send the reps to Jayde. We need to have all games done by May 17! :D
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Post by: Daemonic Daz on April 26, 2013, 08:21:22 AM
I have HoTS now, see you next tourney! :)
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Post by: Sternhund on April 26, 2013, 04:43:37 PM
Yay Daz! :)

Here are the Semifinals Winner's Bracket Matches: HalflingPower v Sternhund

Game 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_BtJy6UCdU&feature=youtu.be)

Game 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVaI8AEOKVs&feature=youtu.be)

Game 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcJhHyjCXAY&feature=youtu.be)

Game 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fndeDfaWCg)

Game 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m7e7tCn7Bk)


Next up: Talir v. JaydeMoon, Crytalos v. Caster
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Post by: RuinedDesires on April 28, 2013, 04:46:54 PM
[SIZE="6"][FONT="Fixedsys"]Talir vs Jaydemoon
[/FONT][/SIZE]
Game 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs-Byxgk9iw)

Game 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDr3czyM6-I)

Game 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujz3evlUgsQ)

[SIZE="6"][FONT="Fixedsys"]Caster vs Crytalos[/FONT][/SIZE]

Game 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFB4GmaM9vg)

Game 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUKZKw50fcM)

Game 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_ENGbUSoCw)
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Post by: Caster13 on April 29, 2013, 04:00:24 PM
Exciting! Can't wait for more games and casts!
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Post by: Sternhund on May 06, 2013, 11:48:01 AM
Waiting on Talir v. Caster ... !
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Post by: Caster13 on May 07, 2013, 12:29:49 PM
Games played and replays sent to the casters!
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Post by: Talir on May 07, 2013, 01:06:34 PM
And when 1-12 have posted them, we begin the finals! :D
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Post by: Sternhund on May 08, 2013, 02:18:39 PM
Talir v. Caster

Game 1 (http://youtu.be/-8-oUQ4TD_k)

Game 2 (http://youtu.be/OaqhmpTb5lY)

Game 3 (http://youtu.be/3G7U2n5TP1k)

Game 4 (http://youtu.be/S7M3Bj5nXso)

Game 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=A5m_MDUCU0M#t=166s)
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Post by: Caster13 on May 08, 2013, 02:56:27 PM
DTs aren't a cheese anymore in PvP :( Nearly 1/3rd of all PvPs start off with somebody going fast DTs!

Also I didn't pick the third map!
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Post by: Jayde Moon on May 08, 2013, 08:49:23 PM
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo.......!!!!
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Post by: Sternhund on May 09, 2013, 05:06:53 AM
We are finally in the Finals! I am super super excited to have these finally uploaded. These are an exciting set of games!

FINALS: HalflingPower v. Caster

Game 1 (http://youtu.be/Bu4Zp4gS2_Q)

Game 2 (http://youtu.be/e01z-zyWaTM)

Game 3 (http://youtu.be/rY2PWh7t_VY)

Game 4 (http://youtu.be/UJNDmfqMg5E)

Game 5 (http://youtu.be/SrzNkhJsJm8)
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Post by: Caster13 on May 09, 2013, 01:21:17 PM
I stormed my own observer x_x
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Post by: Sternhund on May 12, 2013, 11:48:36 PM
Here we go! The Finals! I was bored so I recorded some first-person view if anyone is interested, or if they at least want to criticize my admittedly terrible taste in music.

FINALS: Caster v. Sternhund

Game 1: Casted (http://youtu.be/DfM5inilXP0), First Person (http://youtu.be/QN0uPkUlx0A)

Game 2: Casted (http://youtu.be/LL9EUasWJeA), First Person (http://youtu.be/JWO3fYldEtY)

Game 3: Casted (http://youtu.be/wZTLLn8hlHs), First Person (http://youtu.be/GDCmGu6I46k)

Game 4: Casted (http://youtu.be/LgVJCJAYC3Y), First Person (http://youtu.be/TI4ATib9l_s)

Game 5: Casted (http://youtu.be/UhK8nUvB6ro), First Person (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=twqM56f_cVo#t=40s)

Game 6: Casted (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtXlBbWeB4), First Person (http://youtu.be/rmLKr2NwmpI)

Game 7: Casted (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcQedw7R1zk), First Person (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg59q4puhmg)
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Post by: Sternhund on May 21, 2013, 07:23:17 AM
I suck as a person and was unable to find enough free time to meet up with Caster for the Extended Finals. I'll be away for a few months, so I'm forfeiting. Since Caster won 5 out of the 7 total games we've played, I think it's safe to say he wins!

Perhaps we'll have an Extended Finals in a few months before we kick off a new season of EFUSC2, to wrap up loose ends? If not, congratulations to Caster! Unless JaydeMoon wants to change the operation, it looks like our winners are...!

1st Place: Caster (Protoss)
2nd Place: Sternhund (Zerg)
3rd Place: HalflingPower (Terran)
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Post by: Caster13 on May 21, 2013, 12:25:11 PM
Whaaa? Should've told me you were going to do this! Would've set a solid time or something!
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Post by: HalflingPower on May 21, 2013, 02:42:03 PM
Great fun, I hope we have more people for the next one!
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Post by: Talir on May 21, 2013, 02:43:52 PM
Hurray!
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Post by: Kinslayer988 on May 21, 2013, 02:45:04 PM
It was very fun to watch, keep practicing all of you!
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Post by: Daemonic Daz on May 23, 2013, 12:02:02 PM
Round 2?