Well with the death of Aessar I don't really feel like playing anymore. I guess it was nice while it lasted... but it is an odd and unbalanced combination of game play and story.
I mean as Aessar died he did not fight back... pvp just broke out of nowhere, no warning, so I don't know - I even buffed the guy before he did the deed. Sure it progresses the story, but it isn't really fair gameplay for the player on the receiving end, if you ask me.
I'm a game designer myself and I am hardcore gamer as well, so I know what I want out of a game. I really don't think I can achieve it in EFU:A as the type of game I want would have a permanent character, who can go through see the world change and evolve around him and chronicle it. Like historian or a scrivener of doom, really.
From what I've heard from several players, the server is greatly about player conflict. That is fair enough, but to keep playing new characters whilst holding all the knowledge and experience from your last, repeating all that you did over and over again... No thanks, I don't play games to grind on stupid quests. I could RP all day, watch the others kill each other, play a minor role in it. But I think something like that is not possible on EFU. Sure, there are consequences for your actions - but I'd prefer to see creativity rather than simple permanent death. Especially when one invests as much in a character as I do.
I like to think something creative can still be done here. I don't know though. I wonder what other people think on this topic.
Edit: Oh and the fact I don't like PvP and overly competitive environments doesn't help either.
It's not for everyone. At least I get my nick back. So long!
Quote from: prestonhunt;222180It's not for everyone. At least I get my nick back. So long!
You are ever the charmer aren't you. Glad to be leaving if it means seeing less of you, whoever you are. That type of attitude doesn't help anyone.
There are those of us who like to make characters who persist longer than a week or two. Getting used to the server's idiosyncrasies/politics and playing with a clever outlook are all it takes.
There have been characters who have rocked the server without ever stepping foot beyond the front gate. Like every idea ever, you can believe that if you've thought it, someone's tried it. Seems a shame to step away before you give it another go.
But as phunt said, it's not for everybody. I've had as many bad ends as good ends. Just the way the cookie crumbles.
I survived on this server for the best part of 2 years with only 1 real PVP on my first wizard. Oddly enough, he was also a fat, fairly affable Necromancer. It's certainly possibly to avoid conflict while still gaining some degree of influence as a PC. The trick is to know when to step away and back down, and when to drop a ton of bricks on someone. It's something you learn from playing here a while.
*Rolls eyes* Magi some people are just like that, each to his own. None the less Aeasser was a fine fellow a good friend of anots and I enjoyed his rp Nice seeing you about as I did.
Yeah, so everyone my character hung out with regularly is dead...o.O Aessar will be missed! *mutters something about who's gonna save her butt now*
Quote from: Lenthis;222185*Rolls eyes* Magi some people are just like that, each to his own. None the less Aeasser was a fine fellow a good friend of anots and I enjoyed his rp Nice seeing you about as I did.
Likewise for Anot! I can't say I regret playing, I did of course enjoy it.
Its probably just a case of simulated death syndrome. You know, in real life when you die, you don't actually get to come back; or maybe you do if reincarnation is real - but that is a topic for another place.
I enjoyed my time with Aessar, sir. I think you have a lot to contribute to the server as well. I would recommend playing another PC who just has interest in other things then your last. There are a world of things out there that you likely have no idea about and could explore. Hell..there are a load of things out there that most players have no knowledge of. Get out there and make something for yourself.
If you do choose to go on your own path, I understand and wish you the best sir.
When my first character died here I felt very much the same, I felt as if i couldn't get the fresh experience back and that while it was a blast and something incredible. A second third or fourth character would never match up to what i had come to love with my first.
I was wrong, I rolled up another character the next day and jumped right back in. I followed a new path and learned new things, I met new people and contributed to some great RP experiences. Within a week I was dead, but app'd for a new secretive faction.
I lasted a month and found myself completely addicted. It's 6 months down the line, and while some of my concepts barely last a week others have managed to become infamous villains or martyrs. I've been assassinated, Executed 3 times, ganked, dry looted. While the death itself makes me feel bad for a day or two i know that EFU has so much to offer that other servers I have tried do not.
I say give it a day or two, try something new, or simple try the same thing but this time learn from your mistakes. Yes EFU is conflict heavy, it has alot of pvp and alot of deaths, -BUT- some of the greatest pc's have been focused purely around RP and have done great things.
In time you will come to know which players "Take it to the max" and which players are more tolerable of slight offences.
Good luck and hopefully see you in game.
You'll be back.
If you don't like PvP or conflict in general its exceedingly easy to avoid it.
EFU is however a server where conflict (of all varieties, of which PvP is only one facet) is encouraged and to get the best out of the server one must embrace it. I'm talking about a paladin raising his banner and recruiting a legion of crusaders to vanquish the server of evil groups and champions, a priest of Mask engaging in labyrinthine plotting which involves the untraceable murder of his political and religious enemies, an infernalist who seeks to bind devils into his service in complicated sacricial rituals of his foes...all of this stuff comes under conflict. I ask you how much fun would EFU be without this emphasis?
I'll even give you the answer: it wouldn't be.
Regardless of what you decide for now, I wish you the best. You'll be back though!
Quote from: Germain;222188I enjoyed my time with Aessar, sir. I think you have a lot to contribute to the server as well. I would recommend playing another PC who just has interest in other things then your last. There are a world of things out there that you likely have no idea about and could explore. Hell..there are a load of things out there that most players have no knowledge of. Get out there and make something for yourself.
If you do choose to go on your own path, I understand and wish you the best sir.
I am glad to hear that. I will definitely think about it.
I think it's a shared feeling that when you suffer a permanent death that is beyond your control, you feel sad. You have to take the experience and the story that you gained and cherish those memories (hence why I tell people to take screenshots of their adventures!). I can guarantee that everyone, here, has felt that at least once.
We have all gone through it, Aessar, and I can assure you that all it takes is a few nights of sleep to grow over it and envision a new character that you'd enjoy to play. It is a hard experience, but it also the source of much entertainment. Good luck with your next character, and...
Hope you stick around!
I've felt that way countless times, recently actually. But I took a break, had a sleep, smoked a fat one and afterwards I smiled at the fun I had while it lasted. Nothing is forever. Alas, should you choose to leave, it really would be sad to lose a budding new player. Just have a think, and I guarantee you'll be back.
There's so much to see!
Peace and love, sir.
Sorry to hear it happened as such; hope you try playing as something else, or find something nice else where or here. Aessar was a fun character. =]
You'll feel better tomorrow and will roll up a new PC.
Everyone does. It's part of the experience.
I wasn't able to roleplay with you as often as others, but what little interaction we did have, it was pretty obvious that you were enjoying Aessar.
As stated by other players of the community, we've all felt that way, man. You invest a lot of time into a character, and something that you would deem "petty" sets you back, so to say. In other-words, all that time wasted.
Give it another go.
You must stay, if for no other reason then to keep Prestonhunt from reclaiming his nick..
On a more serious note, first Death of a serious main char is the hardest..on the up side, you probably have seen 10% of what is to be seen, so alot for you to see if you stick around. And even then, you will still rage quit, then come back..is the cycle of life here in efua. Growing pains perhaps? Like Mort said, all part of the process. Rewards are ridiculous if you endure the risk, but I understand if you decide to invest your valuable hours elsewhere.
Really enjoyed all our interactions (you have spoken with several PC's of mine, thou doubt you knew it). Hope to have many more talks with PC's of The Magister!.
Most PC death is avoidable... The best players always give an out. I'm sure there was warning signs leading up to the brutal betrayal that happened. If there was not, then I fear that the player that killed you will probably just feel terrible about it, and learn from his mistakes in the future.
If you go, then so long and have fun with wherever life takes you. But do know that I had a great time playing with you and totally understand what it feels like to dump hours and hours into the complex act that is creating another being that is wholly your own...and seeing it get ice stormed and lightningbolted because it is a kobold in the wrong place at the wrong time. (And I assure you, ask any vet or dedicated player and they can tell you a story about something similar)
Sometimes things like that happens and it totally sucks, but for me I use it as an opportunity to see a new part of the server and look and learn about something completely new and unique in our little storybook biosphere.
If you do ever decide to come back I recommend picking someone who will be involved in a different part of the server (Nature, Docks, Gobsquat etc...) and/or app for something funky and zesty to go along with what you have in mind.
Hope you have the best.
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I have been here 3 years now, and in my three years I have played a few characters. I'm one of those that enjoys the long lived P.C's. Those that evolve slowly, those that I can watch grow and have the world around them effect them.
Anyway, in the three years I have only been 'ganked' once. Now when it happened I was PISSED. I ranted, I raved, I quit, all of it. But, after a few days I looked back on it and was able to in truth say that the death was more deserving than any other she could have had.
I can say that I'm not a PvP player. I don't think I have ever truly been involved in PvP. So I can attest that it can indeed be avoided. It's not always easy, and I have been called a chicken many many times. But, I play the game to enjoy it. I play to tell the story of my characters life, no matter how long or short that story may be.
So, I suggest you rant and rave for a bit. Then take a deep breath and think about it. Rash decisions are rarely the right ones.
This is probably your first perma death of a long lived high lvl PC on EfUA, and the first few ones can be rough, especially if you had little weight in the outcome of the pvp.
But your mage was a reknowned personnality of the settlement, he's made his mark, and his time is done. His death is an opportunity to move on to something else.
There's tons to see on the server. Hecks, i've DMed a year now and still am learning about stuff my pcs have never seen yet... This is a pvp server, but without deliberately avoiding pvp, you hop around this island a long way.
Come back with a new pc you'll enjoy, and soon this rage/sad quit will seem like a noob's rant to you.
Well thanks to everyone for offering their experiences and advice! I welcome the input of any others if they wish to provide it too.
I am going to spend the next few days conducting my own little ritual for Aessar's death. Publishing his two books, putting up his screenshots, summarising his life. Closure...
Although... He was paranoid before his end... There was a note left at the citadel and someone knows all and is advised to reveal it, should Aessar die.
Pity he valued friendship so highly, that was his downfall. An unsuspecting end.
Sometimes, the unexpected ends can really boost the drama and memory of a character.
It's a shame that he's gone, but I look forward to your next!
Aessar was an amazing PC seriously. You had a really positive impact on the server, and the time i spent with him on Frin was so fun, i enjoyed every moment of it.
From starting up a buisness to slowly loosing his sanity on drugs i was with you all the way dude.
It would really be a waste for such a good RPer to quit now, first death is always shitty but please don't give up. I really will look forward to your next PC.
Quote from: The Magister;222181You are ever the charmer aren't you. Glad to be leaving if it means seeing less of you, whoever you are. That type of attitude doesn't help anyone.
He was only being light hearted. Don't be so prickly.
One of my favorite characters. It's really sad, and i honestly have no IC idea how you perished.
You actually introduced and gave a very kind tour of the city to my new PC (Holder), as well as being pals with Bugsby.
You were always fun my friend, and be sure, my characters will remember you. I think i will transmute a chicken in your honor.
Like others have said, try not to worry about the character, on this server. All the things, the XP and the loot are all impermanent, and transitory particles on a screen, what really matters, is the time spent.
All the best.
edit: It's like a play, where everyone must die. You are just in a role, remember that.
Quote from: gab1;222335One of my favorite characters. It's really sad, and i honestly have no IC idea how you perished.
You actually introduced and gave a very kind tour of the city to my new PC (Holder), as well as being pals with Bugsby.
You were always fun my friend, and be sure, my characters will remember you. I think i will transmute a chicken in your honor.
Like others have said, try not to worry about the character, on this server. All the things, the XP and the loot are all impermanent, and transitory particles on a screen, what really matters, is the time spent.
All the best.
edit: It's like a play, where everyone must die. You are just in a role, remember that.
Hmmmmm, well I'm glad of that. But if I do make a new character, the first is unfortunately most likely to be a bitter or crazy b@#$@# who will never be so kind as Aessar was.
And an interesting metaphor there.
Quote from: Nuclear Catastrophe;222328He was only being light hearted. Don't be so prickly.
Heh, I didn't mean to be. Mind you he wasn't very nice on IRC either so it's a bit of a reaction to his general conduct.
will miss you
:(:(:( man i didnt play too much with you but i enjoyed it whenever i did. You were kind of like a part of Archipelago. I will really miss your playing. I actaully kind of like dieing though it gives me the chance to mess with so many other ways of playing Like my crazy possessed elf or my arguing halfling. I enjoyed them all and in the end wasnt that sad to see them go as i would get to try out new things and enjoy the Server that much more. I encourage you to keep playing. You can only learn from your mistakes and try to correct them with other characters. Me :P i didnt read the rules until i had lost a few characters and realized i was doing tons of things that were getting me killed due to disrespectful playing or holding grudges and sending my other characters after others without any reason. But i learned better and enjoy this server that much more. I have a few DMs to thank. I cant remember his name but he helped me realize a mistake when my halfling died or Mort when i had not known some rules he got me to read them. So honestly keep playing. but if you choose to quit well i will miss you and wish you good luck have a good time either way thats what this games for!!!!:D:(:D:(
Shut up and come back. You've been bitten by the EfU bug and are now screwed.
P.S.-- Make a dwarf before they are made app.-only. (they really are that nice)
For what it's worth The Magister, the people that leave never post goodbye threads. They just slip away silently through the cracks.
Long story short, enjoy your EFU!
Quote from: wcsherry;222981For what it's worth The Magister, the people that leave never post goodbye threads. They just slip away silently through the cracks.
Long story short, enjoy your EFU!
The above is so true... UnholyWon the EFU Junkie
Damn. I've never noticed that sherry. My attempts to leave are always a failure.
Playing a Loremaster is definitely a good way to go. Especially given the destruction of the Dominion library, there's a lot of lost lore to be recovered. Plus there are some good PCs out there that would be interested in seeing this type of work succeed. A recent character of mine was a loremaster of sorts for a very specific kind of knowledge and I had fantastic characters and plots approaching me to help them out, so from personal experience I know it can be a rewarding story along the lines of what you're looking for.