While exploring and trying to make a map I entered the path towards the mist mountains, and after walking past a group of orcs, one of them decided to ignore my invisability, and my being in stealth mode and ran over to attack me, forcing an auto attack from me which broke stealth mode and invisability resulting in me being mobbed and killed.
sad times, lost over 8000xp to a buggy orc glitch. :(
I then respawned to try and get my things back, rested, went invisable again, and went into stealth for doubble reasurance. and as soon as I entered the area the same orc instantly targeted me again, ignoring invisability and stealth and ran at me to attack, again, from the other side of the map.
the orc in qustion, I think was a wild Orc Bezerker, I've never seen this happen before, usually they seem to have low spot/listen, and definitly don't usually have true seeing.
(its usually the archers that spot me, there the ones with high spot/listen)
Anyway, was told by a DM to report this, so, reported!
I guess its possible for the orc to have initially made a Listen check on you while you're close to it (in the hearing invisible people range).
As for the AI, I've noticed some curious things like them running across entire maps chasing you even if you go into a -different- area and come back. Once the AI locks on, it seems no amount of stealth/invis will deter them from reaching you!
They definitely don't have True Seeing, its just an AI quirk (and not even a uniform one, either).
I've had this happen to me, died as a druid to the auto-retaliation.
This is also the issue with Grunts in the Coral quest, very nearly killed me twice.
Don't forget that you don't get a d20 added to your stealth skill unlike people with detect skills in NWN.
Terminator Orcs-Once they target you, only death will stop them.
Same thing happened to me Invised gathering ingredients for the quest that requires you to do so.
Quote from: Porkolt;129808Don't forget that you don't get a d20 added to your stealth skill unlike people with detect skills in NWN.
You do get a d20 added to your stealth skills.
As caddies said, it's an AI issue. I had it happen to me last night. Walked into an area, got an orc on my tail, invised and ran back out of the area. Came back in invised and stealthed and the orc continued to follow me.
Wasn't a huge deal, honestly since due to terrain destroying the AIs pathing and my druid speed I managed to outrun him till I got out of the zone again... But still very annoying. I had to walk right by a great many interesting placeables because I couldn't stop walking long enough to read :-(
What I did find most unusual though, is that this mob seemed to spot me the first time without any difficulty, while other mobs with much higher detect skills had failed to spot me while I stood around collecting loot from their kills >.>
I do have to wonder if there is something inherintly buggy with their AI that is different from that of others. It seems to me to be the same problem that we had with Trolls in the Underdark. Invis, stealth, whatever, once they spotted you it's game over.
Quote from: Broken Crockery;129812You do get a d20 added to your stealth skills.
Nope.
To see whether or not someone is detected, its d20 + Spot/Listen against the respective stealth score.
Caddies is right.
As a tip for the future sometimes AI doesn't register you breaking perception if it doesn't actually see you break perception. So stealthing or drinking invis even if stealthed or invis'ed when it's chasing you may help.
Quote from: Caddies;129889Nope.
To see whether or not someone is detected, its d20 + Spot/Listen against the respective stealth score.
Hence why a relatively small amount of Spot/Listen can drastically improve your stealth detection... whereas stealthers must heap on loads and loads of stealth gear to keep from being seen.
At level 6 you can have, without feats and 10 wisdom, a nice spot or listen score of 9. A stealther needs to be at 30 MS to counter that reliably :-(