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Title: The Lonesome Calender.
Post by: 13lackDr4gon on August 13, 2009, 10:09:17 AM
Do many people use this calender?
I see there is a weekly crime wave day now..
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Post by: TheWastesAreFrozen on August 13, 2009, 10:35:33 AM
Never even really looked at the thing until you posted this. I'd guess not but IDK
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Post by: Drakill Tannan on August 13, 2009, 01:59:53 PM
THere is a calendar?
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Post by: FleetingHeart on August 13, 2009, 02:44:09 PM
... What calendar?
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Post by: hbns on August 13, 2009, 02:53:57 PM
http://www.escapefromunderdark.com/forums/calendar.php

used it now!
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Post by: Porkolt on August 13, 2009, 03:59:25 PM
Stop using this for IC events. It's not related to IG timekeeping.
 
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Quote from: 13lackDr4gon;140516I see there is a weekly crime wave day now..

No shit dude, you made it.
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Post by: Conan The Conqueror on August 13, 2009, 04:30:02 PM
That's pretty silly to say it can't be used for IC events. There are numerous ways to work around time differentials. The calendar can serve as a quick reminder for events posted in IC forums as well as events like preludes.
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Post by: 13lackDr4gon on August 13, 2009, 04:30:13 PM
mwahaha, yes I did make the crimewave event.
But hey at least I am using it.
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Post by: Zymnarkmar on August 13, 2009, 06:21:36 PM
Hmmm....nothing like constructive posts, right Porkolt?  Just makes me want  to app for a giant/troll/ogre to eat PCs of  extra-smart posters like this (Porkolt), just to make the forums a more civil place.  Trolls for Trolls, what a fine idea!  

P.S.  That calender IS cool and I think it should get more use!

Peace! :)
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Post by: IxTheSpeedy on August 13, 2009, 07:30:48 PM
I had no idea we had a calender.  How cool.
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Post by: ExileStrife on August 13, 2009, 08:23:13 PM
It is pretty much totally unmoderated, and there's no strict ruling about what IC or OOC stuff can go there.  I don't have a problem with people exploring it and using it how they wish.  We'll take issues with it as they come up.
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Post by: Porkolt on August 13, 2009, 09:55:13 PM
Quote from: Conan The Conqueror;140541That's pretty silly to say it can't be used for IC events. There are numerous ways to work around time differentials. The calendar can serve as a quick reminder for events posted in IC forums as well as events like preludes.

Simple example:
 
The whole 'weekly' thing. First of all, the FR calendar is divided into months of three tendays (no weeks), second, even if the FR calendar did have weeks, one week OOC time does not correspond to one week IC time, therefore naming something 'weekly' on this calendar would only make it weekly OOC, not weekly IC.
 
 
This is the thing that demonstrates an issue that can come up quite easily and actually is a big issue for me.
 
 
Furthermore, as ExileStrife said, no moderation. Which is also an issue.
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Post by: Garem on August 13, 2009, 10:16:40 PM
Not a fan, to be honest. What does "Weeky (sic) Crime Wave Day" mean? Why is it dominating every Wednesday of every month? Why isn't this reflecting any ACTUAL in-game material, either on the forums or notes scattered around?

It's first major use is already questionable to me. Maybe it is salvagable, as hbns is attempting to do. But I sure wouldn't have looked there if it wasn't for this post. I'd just like to see an explicit statement of "This is OOC material" or otherwise.

If someone wanted to make a project out of it and put up important Forgotten Realms dates for festivals and such, but turn off player posting, I could see that being very interesting and helpful!
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Post by: sylvyrdragon on August 13, 2009, 11:19:06 PM
I don't mind the OOC usage.. but it would be nice if it had some IG relivance.

Seeing major events put in, like 'fight nights',tournements, or planned meetings.  The calender is helpful with planning these things in advance.

As for the FR calender not matching this one.  Well, that is easy, WE don't ACUTALLY live in the forgotten Realms. When planning real life time to make events or things you would like to have a real life calender.
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Post by: ScottyB on August 14, 2009, 12:12:35 AM
Sometimes I think using FR dating schemes is more trouble than it's worth. If no one got on my case for replacing dates with ((12 June 2009)) and crap, no one should be complaining about events being put up on a real life calendar.

Tedium is not immersive.
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Post by: Garem on August 14, 2009, 12:18:15 AM
"Tedium is not immersive."

A great motto for anyone who actually knows FR lore well enough to do the aforementioned project. Following strict FR timeframes would be totally unneccessary.
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Post by: Conan The Conqueror on August 14, 2009, 12:41:21 AM
Yes, but instead of making a constructive post that possibly criticizes the use of the calendar for IC events, you just come off looking like an asshole. You don't have the right to dictate how players use the tools available to them. That is reserved to the DM's. It's one thing to have an opinion, and another to attempt to derail the constructive attempts of others.

Trying to strictly rational the difference between real time and game time always is a waste of energy. The calendar is one of many tools, that allow for players to collaborate and schedule events of importance. They do not have to tie directly to an exact in game date in order to be effective or useful. The exact in game date for an event can be posted or referenced elsewhere as the event draws closer.

In the end, it's about using common sense, and common sense involves less troll-like behavior.
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Post by: 13lackDr4gon on August 14, 2009, 01:27:00 AM
The whole 'weekly' thing. First of all, the FR calendar is divided into months of three tendays (no weeks), second, even if the FR calendar did have weeks, one week OOC time does not correspond to one week IC time, therefore naming something 'weekly' on this calendar would only make it weekly OOC, not weekly IC.
 
Well, I was just muckin' around. I didnt think it would go right down in to 'game time'. But hell bearly any of you knew it was there. I figure at wednesday midnight everyone should try and theive something IG.
Mhwahaha!
Break an' Enner will run rampant.
Batton down the hatches weaklings.
 
Ahem, then the next day my Detective Kassandra Hollows can solve the crimes.
Cheers.
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Post by: Oskar Maxon on August 14, 2009, 05:15:59 AM
I'm quite sure a day IC is supposed to be a day OOC, or has that changed?
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Post by: Porkolt on August 14, 2009, 09:32:08 AM
Quote from: Conan The Conqueror;140607Yes, but instead of making a constructive post that possibly criticizes the use of the calendar for IC events, you just come off looking like an asshole. You don't have the right to dictate how players use the tools available to them. That is reserved to the DM's. It's one thing to have an opinion, and another to attempt to derail the constructive attempts of others.
 
Trying to strictly rational the difference between real time and game time always is a waste of energy. The calendar is one of many tools, that allow for players to collaborate and schedule events of importance. They do not have to tie directly to an exact in game date in order to be effective or useful. The exact in game date for an event can be posted or referenced elsewhere as the event draws closer.
 
In the end, it's about using common sense, and common sense involves less troll-like behavior.

Stop being an e-paladin, it's not getting you anywhere.
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Post by: Blake the Boar on August 14, 2009, 11:20:21 AM
Oh, is there a calendar?