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Title: NWN Tinkering Again
Post by: Conan The Conqueror on October 28, 2009, 12:02:09 AM
Bit more free time on the hands lately, so I have been playing around with portraits and overrides again. Found some neat stuff on the vault and was just messing around with possible overrides for default content like PC heads. Thought I'd share for people to have a look, comment, and make suggestions if they wanted.

Also, I would like to point out that the files here are from the KotOR Heads pack at NWvault.

http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Hakpaks.Detail&id=7796

Created by Estelindis

UPDATE: Since I picked this back up, I will repost the download links as soon as I finish editing the files.

EDIT: Thought it would be good to list the model numbers for each.

021 and 021 alt (039), 001 and 001 alt (037)
005 and 005 alt (038), 006 and 006 alt (045)

[hide=First set of options](http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1465/headsuggestion58.jpg)[/hide]

013 and 013 alt (035), 001 and 001 alt (036)

008 and 008 alt (046), 018 and 018 alt (044)

[hide=Second set](http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4157/headsuggestion14.jpg)[/hide]

You'll noticed I posted one head twice, as I saw two options that might work. The 'override' heads are all taken from KotOR models.

016, 016 alt (047) and 017, 017 alt (046)
012, 012 alt (042) and 001, 001 alt (032)

[hide=Third Set](http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1959/headsuggestions912.jpg)[/hide]

005, 005 alt (049) and 025, 025 alt (028)
003, 003 alt (033) and 007, 007 alt (030)

[hide=Fourth Set](http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2482/headsuggestions1316.jpg)[/hide]

008, 008 alt (043) and 009, 009 alt (048)

[hide=Fifth Set](http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2583/headsuggestion2324.jpg)[/hide]
These next couple sets are from the heads created by Xaltar.

WARNING:[/color] The following NWvault link is NSFW !! Xaltar also included some adult/nude material on this page as well.

http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Models.Detail&id=38874&id=434

009, 009 alt (022) and 032, 032 alt (025)

[hide=Sixth Set](http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6002/headsuggestion1718.jpg)[/hide]

013, 013 alt (017) and 022, 022 alt (016)
002, 002 alt (018) and 015, 015 alt (019)

[hide=Seventh Set](http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2418/headsuggestions1922.jpg)[/hide]
Title: awesome
Post by: Mort on October 28, 2009, 12:20:38 AM
awesome

Awesome work, man!
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Post by: UnholyWon on October 28, 2009, 12:58:07 AM
sweetness
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Post by: ExileStrife on October 28, 2009, 01:18:48 AM
Hello Commander Riker (bottom picture, top right)
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Post by: Ommadawn on October 28, 2009, 01:54:27 AM
Very, very nice.
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Post by: Conan The Conqueror on October 28, 2009, 01:55:36 AM
Here's a few more, with more to come. Since the female heads are a bit more intricate in terms of colors and potential clashes, I will be posting several shots of them in the future with color as well as shots of current in game NPCs and PCs, so people have a good idea before they download anything and use it.

After some good testing and work I'll make the individual files available for people to download and use.

EDIT: Going to update the first post.
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Post by: TheMacPanther on October 28, 2009, 03:07:00 AM
Sweet.
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Post by: Conan The Conqueror on October 28, 2009, 03:34:02 AM
That's essentially it for now. 24 head overrides total, with 10 for males and 14 for females. Again suggestions and comments are welcome. Also, depending on time, if someone has a particular request for a different pairing of overrides, just let me know and I'll see what I can do. (If you think one head looks better replacing a different one than those shown above)

Once I've finished editing the .mdl files and give them a good test run in game I'll post some shots of notable PC's and NPC's so that everyone has a look at how the override works on current characters.

I will say that this kind of override is generally better for fresh characters, though we'll see how horrid some of the clashes might be.
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Post by: Lulzebub on October 28, 2009, 04:33:53 AM
If this is actually going to become a for real head pack for EfU, I have a few contributions I'd like to make. They will have to wait though, because I am incredibly busy with work.
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Post by: Conan The Conqueror on October 28, 2009, 04:41:44 AM
I also wanted to note that all of the above heads make use of the tattoo color palette/textures in order to create eye and lip color. (lip color only available to females) This can potentially make for some very bizarre appearances for existing characters and NPC's - depending on what they have selected for their tattoo colors. Not many PC's I've seen have tattoos, but even if you left it the default color, this may look a little strange on some female heads/lips.

I'll have more details soon.
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Post by: Secutor on October 28, 2009, 06:50:45 AM
Carth Onasi!
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Post by: Conan The Conqueror on October 29, 2009, 02:29:43 AM
Unfortunately the overrides do not work well with large phenotype models/characters. So I shall have to learn how to scale/apply the textures to large pheno heads before I can release this.

Otherwise it creates some rather bizarre texture issues when you encounter a large pheno character.

This is what happens when things go bad:

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4700/overridedemo1.jpg)

And here's a preview of some of the heads in game:

(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9810/overridedemo8.jpg)

(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4770/overridedemo7.jpg)

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3078/overridedemo6.jpg)

(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/999/overridedemo5.jpg)

(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6761/overridedemo4.jpg)

(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4599/overridedemo3.jpg)
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Post by: FleetingHeart on October 29, 2009, 04:26:23 AM
Vasard looks like he's about to jump your bones.
 
Looking forward to the final release!
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Post by: TheMacPanther on October 29, 2009, 04:45:28 AM
Damn sexy, but Kingsman does have a touch of the rape in his eyes. Best see to that.
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Post by: Dhund on October 29, 2009, 01:49:05 PM
I thought it fit.
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Post by: DeputyCool on October 29, 2009, 05:59:04 PM
So good.
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Post by: DangerousDan on October 29, 2009, 06:21:27 PM
Well done, Sir.
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Post by: Thomas_Not_very_wise on October 29, 2009, 06:23:44 PM
:)
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Post by: Kiaring on October 29, 2009, 06:54:59 PM
I, for one, have no issue with Bilby looking like Ponda Baba, and would like to be a part of beta trials.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ponda_Baba
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Post by: Conan The Conqueror on October 30, 2009, 12:33:49 AM
No, it was just because someone was asking him for a refund on the money they paid for a room.

What they didn't understand is, money goes into Kingsman's hand but it never comes out. He just stared until the guy walked away. :(

Ideally I will be able to create a package for each head individually and then people can pick and choose which packs they want. However the initial focus will be on getting the entire pack working.
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Post by: Ommadawn on October 30, 2009, 12:44:55 AM
Can't wait.  :)
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Post by: Conan The Conqueror on November 01, 2009, 02:58:22 AM
Alright, things still aren't fixed for large/fat phenotypes, however, anyone who wants to hop in on the beta testing of this override are welcome to do so.

There are two files (rar) to download. EFU Heads A and EFU Heads B.
EFU Heads A containts a Textures_Tpa.erf. This goes in your NWN -> texturepacks folder. NOTE:[/color] I highly recommend you back up this file first somewhere safe and then unzip the erf here.

EFU Heads B is just a bunch of .mdl files that you extract to your override folder. Once you have those in there you are all set to go.

Here are the links to the files. Feel free to comment on any quirkiness that you find as well as post screenshots of your characters.

Another note, the head override that looks like Carth Onasi was not included, though I may swap that one in for the next stage of testing.

EDIT: Removed old download links. Will update first post with new links once files are finished.
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Post by: DeputyCool on November 04, 2009, 05:57:39 PM
Any intent to do other races?
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Post by: Conan The Conqueror on November 04, 2009, 10:23:49 PM
The trick is finding -good- models for other races >_>  I've continued to look through the vault and a few other places, but generally custom content is generated for A) Humans and B) Females

Also, curious if anyone has come across any issues with the overrides?

I will probably be uploading an alternate version soon that includes Carth Onasi's head to replace default Male head 001.
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Post by: Pup on November 05, 2009, 08:03:11 AM
Damn.  I need a better computer but I'll definitely try it down the line some time.
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Post by: Conan The Conqueror on November 12, 2009, 03:45:18 PM
The link for the downloads is busted, I'll have to update it sometime this weekend.
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Post by: Conan The Conqueror on January 02, 2010, 09:03:35 PM
So, picked this back up. Trying to stumble back into whatever progress I made before. Possibly will have an updated version available, and compatible for large phenotype, sometime tonight or tomorrow.

Possibly including a mod of elf heads to make males look less 'grizzled' and fix some texture issues with the Elf heads that were added with HotU.
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Post by: Elytherin Dragonius on January 03, 2010, 03:38:47 AM
i gather that these replace the older head styles rather than adding an additional set of heads right?, is there any way that they could be set as new head types rather than replacements?
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Post by: Conan The Conqueror on January 03, 2010, 10:05:26 PM
Unfortunately that would not go over well in a persistent world setting, as if you add heads without a hak, anyone who did not have those override files would then see you as headless.

As EFU is currently a hak free server, this is not an option.
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Post by: Elytherin Dragonius on January 03, 2010, 10:58:46 PM
yeah thats kinda what i figured,

Although i doubt there are many people that didnt download the various portrait packs perhaps if we were to compile a list of game additions that arnt required to play efu but do make the game more fun or add updated features or visuals, i know there is a thread for it but if people are keen to keep the old heads but also want the new heads then perhaps they could be implemented.

As a note for that it would probably be easily added that if the heads were made additional, make an ooc note at the top of the characters description noting that the character user a head from an additional head and to see the efu forums for details,

I think it would add significantly more flavor to the server with only slightly more inconvenience than custom portraits  .  

Just my thoughts
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Post by: FleetingHeart on January 03, 2010, 11:08:02 PM
Too much hassle, Elytherin.

Far too much hassle. If we were going to go to that much trouble, we'd just introduce HAKs.

And it doesn't even begin to compare to portraits. Seeing the base blank portrait is not immersion breaking. Seeing a headless PC is to an extreme.
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Post by: Dr Dragon on January 04, 2010, 01:02:15 AM
I like Biowares current heads way better.

-The Doc
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Post by: KjetilofNorway on January 05, 2010, 08:14:38 AM
Same here.
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Post by: Caddies on January 05, 2010, 12:43:01 PM
New headsets basically amazing.
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Post by: UnholyWon on January 05, 2010, 02:49:00 PM
Quick! My addictive personality demands instant gratification, give me head.... download links!

Pretty please :D
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Post by: Garem on January 05, 2010, 05:30:26 PM
Does the hair color change like it used to? Just wondering, since they were taken from another game.
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Post by: Conan The Conqueror on January 09, 2010, 04:03:26 PM
They change as normal, Garem. The only issue being that on some heads the option to change eye color and lip color based on tattoo color choices has been added.

Also, if you prefer default heads, why do you even bother to post in this thread? It is absolutely pointless and a waste. You are not required in any way to download or use these files and they have no impact on your play if others use them.

In short, if you have nothing to contribute just shut up. Leave your trolling in IRC.
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Post by: Jagged on January 28, 2013, 02:21:57 PM
So has this project been scrapped or can I still dream of a download link?
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Post by: Corrigo on January 28, 2013, 09:55:36 PM
Man I'm so glad I never downloaded this.

I really enjoy my standard nwn heads. Did you know their expression is so ambiguous, you can determine what emotion they have on a screenshot depending on from which angle you take it?
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Post by: Tanks on January 29, 2013, 12:27:55 AM
Where were these when I was playing?? Awesome
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Post by: AllMYBudgies on January 29, 2013, 01:14:45 AM
I would wish nothing more than for these links to return. If anybody has the files, and would care to upload them I'm sure that there would be many appreciative players that would download them.