just was thinking that its rather odd that Risers dont have dark vision, their eyes are no longer usefull in an organic sence so it seems like they would have a magical vision. if this is the case they should be able to see in the dark
(yeah i know their awesome already but this one just seems kinda odd that they dont have it)
perma ultravision imo
I think they should have ultra, seems sorta odd that an ancient undead needs to spark up a torch to get around.
Perma Ultravision would be a *huge* advantage with Darkness having been returened to its normal, awesome form. Darkvision though would be fine and make sense. I thought all undead had that.
Perma true seeing IMO.
It does make total sense to have darkvision. Anything more is overkill.
Quote from: Gnome on the Strange;161520Perma Ultravision would be a *huge* advantage with Darkness having been returened to its normal, awesome form. Darkvision though would be fine and make sense. I thought all undead had that.
Actually I believe it would only work on hostile Darkness spells. If the player themselves or an ally cast it they would still need to 'remove' the effect via an ultravision spell or potion.
http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Darkness
I missed that memo where Darkness was de-lamed. If it is back to its original NWN style then darkvision would be more appropriate. >_>
i did think about it in a ballanced way hence dark vision over any others ^^) glad im not the only one that thinks so :)
Nevermind Darkvision. How about Immunity: Darkness? Or Immunity: Spell School (Evocation) which has Darkness in it. OOOoooh I'm so excited think of the possibilities.
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Darkness is just one of those spells you can't be immune to without UV
Quote from: lovethesuit;161585Nevermind Darkvision. How about Immunity: Darkness? Or Immunity: Spell School (Evocation) which has Darkness in it. OOOoooh I'm so excited think of the possibilities.
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OBJECTION!
You're just being silly.
Immunity:Darkness once again only works if the creator of the spell is hostile, therefore the player using it will still be effected by their own spell. The best fix to this would be to give some of these races Ultravision are 2x their level or something to makeup for it. That's all stated in certain places and I've never tested it personally but if it can be made to work then Immunity:Darkness would be quite legit for Drow, Nightrisers, and other creatures with light sensitivity.
Ultravision costs you five credits and lasts a long time (thats one egg gets you two bottles of 4 hour duration) not only that but you'll find darkness very effective, something thats also readily available to you!
So, any update? Mostly... getting the darkvision or low light vision would be very very nice, or many just an items like a helmet in the vendor that has it? In the ruins some places are so dark you can't see at all and often get stuck on small objects. I know you can buy ultravision pots but it just seems a bit silly for an undead that lives below in darkness to be blind!
10 credits for a potion of ultravision, thats 1/4th of an egg (it's been made even easier since my last post)
"Hey lets take the super-powered killing machines that are built solely with PvP in mind and make them stronger!"
I had always assumed they had darkvision. If they don't, I'm sure they'll get by.
I honestly don't see the big deal about giving them the ability to see in dark areas that they spend most of their time in, but ok... was just curious.
Night vision would be decent, It wont help them in pvp. Ultra vision however would make them VERY powerfull in pvp. Well Even more than they already are. And from what I know, Risers do not lack supplies anyway. so Buy the potions you rich #"%"/
such a hater you pallid mask scum :(
(http://youbentmywookie.com/wookie/gallery/gohero_skeleton_warrior_3pack/gohero_skeleton_1.jpg)
Thanks for this pro ultravision bros. We're gonna go back to camping the rats under goblin town. Level 3s give sweet XP.
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Thanks for this pro ultravision bros. We're gonna go back to camping the rats under goblin town. Level 3s give sweet XP.
And gold I hear.
I think that I just said darkvision or low light vision. You guys crack me up on that that would be OP OMG!
Anyways, I am sure this will be locked soon. DMs can decide if it makes sense for undead with no eyeballs and magical ways of seeing to be able see in the dark like all undead can.
You have magical eyes. Its a miracle you can see at all let alone perfectly!