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Title: Screw You, Win7, Screw You (linux help needed)
Post by: Egon the Monkey on May 04, 2010, 11:10:31 AM
Well, because my lag spikes turned out to be the same problem everyone and their dog seem to have with Windows 7 (search "Windows 7 network lag/latency" and you'll see what I mean) I'm installing Fedora to game on until I find a fix that works.

If anyone here has tips for running NWN under Linux, I'd be glad to hear. Found the install guide already.
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Post by: Paha on May 04, 2010, 11:23:51 AM
Screw you lousy users. My win 7 works perfectly.

Well, the truth is that if you don't make sure certain settings are not turned off, it's protection and firewalls will cause you problems. But it's nothing hard to do.
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Post by: Egon the Monkey on May 04, 2010, 01:20:40 PM
Nah, it's not a straight up "You are not allowed access" issue, and I get lagspikes even with all security turned off. Rather than be snarky, perhaps explain these settings? Considering more often than not where an option was in XP is not where it is now.
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Post by: Paha on May 04, 2010, 02:04:40 PM
Well, I myself can give you few examples that can cause so said lag spikes with windows 7, that I myself tested and also found true in the past when I rolled to use it.

Now, since I got a bit newer generation PC it's also a big boost for my perfomance with Windows 7. Even if it would not need that "high" end pc, it still had problems with older models that have small tweaking problems with how their drivers and junks were made back in the days.

First: Sound card. I had rather decent sound card, couple years old, but surprise, it did not fit together with Windows 7 anymore. There were multiple times with problems on the lines with different sound levels, and it also caused lag spikes in old games like nwn, where the sound system is like stone-age.

Two: Graphic card related problems 1-2 years and older models. Drivers are said to fix some of them problems, but boy oh boy, they excist.

Three: Connection and firewalling. The issue is not necessarily that it doesn't have access, but that it blocks certain type of packages that cause packet loss, which means momentary disconnects at game. In nwn it rebuilds your connection if it can within 30 seconds, so it doesn't drop you, rather gives you spikes and moments of freezing. These can be providers solid NAT systems through connection, your modems porting and NAT, or the windows firewall. I myself haven't used windows firewalls at all since starting times of Xp.
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Post by: Paha on May 04, 2010, 02:07:53 PM
There is also easy way to do those register changes, that you can also find with similar as you pointed out.

Windows 7 gaming latency or such on google finds easy instructions to try the little changes on registry that make it easier for some connections to fit in with windows 7. I've also tested those but for me they didn't do much difference. It depends mostly what kind connection your provider provides you with.

( In Finland we got providers that have the natural build-in NAT systems that just cause latency problems with games and programs that use for example p2p connections, because the build-in NAT at the connection centers circles certain packages, and on other provider they do not use those, which also causes gamers to favor certain providers over others )
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Post by: Jasede on May 08, 2010, 04:23:52 AM
Others seem to have a similar problem under Windows 7, as you mentioned.

You may wish to attempt the steps outlined here:

http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showtopic=26628
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Post by: Hilltop on May 08, 2010, 07:04:39 AM
Like every new system, I just wait until they work out the bugs, then upgrade.
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Post by: FishyBusiness on May 08, 2010, 08:14:47 AM
Just use win XP.
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Post by: Egon the Monkey on May 14, 2010, 08:45:57 AM
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions.  However: -This PC came with 7, as it was that or Vista. -Jasede, I found that very same thread's suggestions myself. Didn't help. -I don't have an XP disc anywhere, as the one for my laptop will only work on that machine (it's a recovery disc). So it was about £80 for XP, or bugger all for Kubuntu (turns out fedora hates proprietary gfx card drivers). To a cheapskate like me, that was a no-brainer, since I use Linux at work anyway.
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Post by: TheMacPanther on May 14, 2010, 10:12:36 AM
*cough*getamac*cough*
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Post by: Cluckyx on May 24, 2010, 09:01:53 PM
Seeing as I use Linux all the time, do you have any more specific questions besides "what do?"