As of v1051, some major initial work has gone into trying to reduce lag.
Things to keep an eye on -
- Since a decent number of areas/NPCs have been removed, please let us know if anything is not as it should be
- Continue to let us know about incidents of bad lag, particularly lag spikes (when lots of people are disconnected). If you happen to notice anything happening immediately before this, that would also be helpful to report. For example - using any kind of complicated system, fighting certain kinds of NPCs, etc.
- I've dropped more "trash hole" placeables around the mod, it might be helpful if you could try to keep things tidy a bit and pick up any dropped items. As an example, I considered removing Orc Teeth as a potential drop from orcs, but then realized that might make alchemists rather unhappy
- Whenever you see a NPC stuck in combat animation, or bobbing up and down, that is basically a bad sign. If you can think of examples where the NPC AI is getting tied up doing weird things, or complicated things, please report it.
In the docks after the Mist Raider incursion (most recent one) I saw the on of the Dog Fighter NPC's running by the Sending tower in the Docks. He seemed to have gotten stuck, by the barrow wights camp, and kept trying to walk thru a fence. I thought it was possessed by a DM at first, and part of some plotline or another, but now, in hindsight, perhaps it was moved during the battle, and trying to get back to it's spot, using faulty pathing? Not sure if it causes lag,but was definitely odd behavior.
Please don't remove orc teeth, but making ordinary Nightrisers not drop Skeleton Knuckles would be very beneficial IMO. They really lag up Longest Night as an extreme example, not to mention that Evil PCs who'd be using a lot of Knuckles can't *do* Longest Night. Knuckles are a quite powerful reagent as far as I'm aware, but the supply exceeds demand hugely. Make them drop only off Riser Guards instead IMO.
QuoteEvil PCs who'd be using a lot of Knuckles can't *do*
This is true, might as well remove them from the quest if it causes lag.
Lately the majority of my lag has been from my side not the servers - so at least for US West, I'd assume things are really good lag-wise.
The only time i have gotten lag is with npc conversations this was a few days ago so i do not know if it has changed since then but that is only lag i get
... The demand of knuckles is still high.. so I dont know what you people be sayen.
How about the boss on said quest just drops a box full of them, and the box has a description saying "No, this monster did not have a box of knuckles on him, this box is a representation of you spending time going around to all the corpses and harvesting said knuckles, and this box exists solely to help reduce lag."
The point is more that a quest that specifically blocks Evil/necromantic players probably isn't worth dropping a ton of necromantic reagents on since most parties will have nobody who will be using them as major summoning/alchemy reagents.
How about adding a trash-hole to said quest like on trogs? If people aren't totally lazy and care for server performance they might just take the knuckles, when they check the corpses anyway, and drop them in the trash after.
This way some people are still able to collect the knuckles and others can take care that the remains don't lag up the server.
Has anyone experienced lag recently?
I had some wird 1sec lag spikes about 1houer from now.
Yes. Completely awful lag, resulting in my PC being unresponsive for 30 seconds and dying before he literally knew what hit him, and despite another player claiming he saw me heal up successfully.
Servers been darn laggy of late. Lots of teleporting around the screen, both my PC and NPC enemies.
Very laggy currently.
13th of november, around 20-21 GMT
Not really laggy at transitions, but when you try to walk across an area your PC come about walking like a crab. 22:30 GMT+1,
From about 1pm PST til 2:20ish PST(2130-2230gmt?), lag was so bad, it became unplayble. Opening a chest, or trying to look at a drop took well over a minute, and combat would freeze, then 30 or seconds later, you would be 1/2 dead, and mobs infront of you dead, with no animations. This was while doing the Missing Children quest in the docks. Upon exiting, I kept warping all over the map, finally gave up trying to navigate and logged. We did see a "error zero " message come up, on our way out, other then that, the entire session was laggy, but only saw the "zero" message once and got worse as we progressed(the lag), ending in the warping around the map.
I've started to get disconnects alot more now, often when big things happen with alot of people and so on. I had this a while ago, it was gone and now returned. Upon trying to log back in it says my CD code's still in use and I have to wait 5 min.
Quote from: EfUA_undercover;208841How about adding a trash-hole to said quest like on trogs? If people aren't totally lazy and care for server performance they might just take the knuckles, when they check the corpses anyway, and drop them in the trash after.
This way some people are still able to collect the knuckles and others can take care that the remains don't lag up the server.
I don't care enough about server performance to spend all the extra time needed to clean up my inventory for something like that.
Tonight was pretty good, except our party got spikes during the gnoll boss fight. Screen froze for about 20 seconds. Unfroze to a loading screen.
Lag spikes at coral.. it would lag then I would crash it was lagging so bad. I spawned on a building and got owned by archers.. when I loggeb back in.. rediculous to be honest lol, But our excellent dms were at the sence and made things ship shape.
Just now there was some massive delay that lasted for about a few minutes.(?) It seems that it was server wide, as other players mentioned it also. No specific script used at the time.
The lag was utterly terrible last night. Trying to go to Shipwreck beach via the beach was about impossible. I didn't know my pC could teleport 10 game feet at a time. Even restarting the game didn't help too much. It did get better... but wow.
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It was lagging when doing the Gnoll quest last night. I would target a Gnoll and then it would teleport away from me and then my char would run and it would then teleport back too me. Also i would see no animation just me standing there and then the next thing i know i am hurt and the enemy is dead.
Something since the last reset has made the lag particularly brutal. Long lapses and then all of a sudden the server would catch up and luckily I'd be surrounded by dead enemies! I've died to these stutters before though, but usually after that it's fine for awhile, but last night there was like 3-4 stutters in one evening and lots of teleporting around.
On the up side the lag seemed to cause me to deliver an odd amount of critical hits on a recent orc quest raid. :) But made for a teleporty gaming experience. Least I lived-barely.
Another big push was done to reduce lag (including, I believe, disabling the system that lets players dynamically plant gardens and such). Let us know if you notice improvements.
Quote from: Howland;211651Another big push was done to reduce lag (including, I believe, disabling the system that lets players dynamically plant gardens and such). Let us know if you notice improvements.
Does that destroy existing gardens? Or simply remove the means to harvest seeds?
Horrid lag at the moment of writing this post, and there is only 10 people logged on. No DM on, so I assume spice isn't the case.
LArge spike around 6:33 pm while doing under the web.
EST time, Doing Under the Web, a large number of dire spiders had appeared on the screen. Lasted for about 15-20 seconds.
Gregor Farsun was my character
Keep making posts about when especially large spikes occur or you notice a great frequency of lag (or any for that matter). Please add what your character was doing at the time or just before. If you were doing a quest, if something triggered at that specific time, etc. If it's too spoilerish for your character, just send me a PM with it. Also be alert for error messages.
Example:
Quote01:20 GMT +1
Talir on efu_talir playing Cyril Rayne.
Noticed a lagspike a few secounds after using the unique property on a book to read its contents. The book was called Bulgina Greaselip's Secrets to Goblin Fertility.
Otherwise, has there been any noticeable improvements?
This might be totally off, but I seem to recall that way back when the server was still pretty new everyone was instructed to keep their mini-maps closed as much as possible since keeping them open increased lag in some way. Is this still/was this ever true? Could it help, now?
6:30 p.m. EST, Major Major Major lag spike.
I was on Gregor Farsun in the cave off the perilous cliffs. During the time a group was in the desert doing who knows what!
Around 1 am GMT+2. During lag one of the group (can't remember who exactly) reported that he has a whole bunch of monsters (drow, nightrisers etc. lots of them) in his party list.
We were "the desert group" near the Veil.
It was Rimmeke's character... She reported ooc: basically getting a whole series of NPCs, svirfneblin, nightrisers... to the right of screen joining her party (joining parties mechanically, of course, doesnt happen on EfU)... Strange... Happened during the 45 second lag spike.
Sorry about the lag.. 13 players in the one area fighting stuff.
I was while on the zig bitching about a lack of dm. :( I was fully buffed as well!
Karrin Connell casted on Gregor: Dex, Strength, Endurance, Flame Weapon, Magic Weapon, Keen Weapon, Greater Magic Weapon, Improved invisibility, see Invisibility, Iron Guts, protection from Elements, And was about to cast extended haste but she logged.
This was on Jan 11 2011, 2:15 p.m.
Jan. 13th 2011 about 9:00 pm CST
Where: Starwood
I was wandering the woods when attacked by Haguur eater of men, an Orc Warrior, Orc Beserker, 2 wolfs and a jungle cat. (I had been invis, but Haguur saw me)
The lag spike hit so hard that both I and the 'monsters' were warping around the screen.
On the latest two occasions that I have done the Gnoll Quest, that being since after the retouch, I have experienced some immense lag.
It seems to me that others have had the same issue as well.
GMT +1 around 10.45 AM. All of a sudden thick lag when I was just trying to leave my room and go outside the Kingsman.
Quote from: The Old Hack;220379GMT +1 around 10.45 AM. All of a sudden thick lag when I was just trying to leave my room and go outside the Kingsman.
Exprienced same, was warping all over the kingsman at same time, we both could not reach the door..
I believe rot gobs 2 caused it when a couple dozen goblins were constantly rolling saves in their own gas clouds. Those of us on the quest got the worst of the lag, I'm sure.
Absolutely mad skating rink lag upon login just entering the Kingsman. This was 4.20 PM GMT+1.
Should definitely consider whether or not the Gibberlings are influencing lag or not. I notice that whenever the server is extremely laggy (which is incredibly often, it seems) there are also literally ten billion gibberlings in the ruins.
Any progress on removing the lag would be sick. Gibberlings do seem to cause a decent amount of it and spawn in massive quantities.
Someone should tell the Conclave to do their job.
Skating rink lag just now walking about the Ziggurat. Really bad.
Lag right now (13th Feb, 12PM AEST) is incredibly bad. Took literally a minute to enter the Gobsquat via conversation and a full 15seconds to sit in a chair.
Feb.12th 8:45PM CST server up for 17 hours. Docks sending took almost a minute just to get to the "continue" button. Ended up just closing it and not caring about the 5 gold.
Scripted conversation in the Wastrel to rest also to extremely long.
Would not risk questing in this lag.
Feb 13 3:30 PM EST (Now)
All dialogue conversations with NPCs are taking an exorbitant amount of time to process.
23 Feb 18:00 GMT onwards massive lag constantly jumping everywhere on the server.
Hell of a lag spike at about 1:10 AM GMT, 24th of Febuary
(well, 23rd in the US where I am, but you know what I mean)
6.30 GMT still going on at 7pm gmt. The lag is around 2-3 seconds to view inventory, skill points. Walking and attacks have spikes. Minor questing going on.
^ Yep, same.
Saturday, about 2:45 pm EST - I experienced lag lasting about 10 seconds, resulting in a FD for my PC because it was lagging at a crucial point on a scripted quest.
Still a lot of lag in game daily. Some parts of it have improved in general but there are still a lot of things happening server side due to it. Triggers are not being fired, traps being set off due to incorrectly reported player locations, conversations being delayed by three seconds or more, hostile spawns jumping around or being overly inactive in battle or teleporting to people.
The things I've noticed that cause a major problem are -
- Persistent quest areas built by DMs. Whenever someone is running something special it's horrible across the server.
- Player deaths anywhere in the module cause an instant 1-2 second freeze on the server.
- Many quests lag the entire server until it's reset. (Orcs 1, Orcs 2, Sinister Enclave, Brood Hive)
- Too many wandering / patrolling NPCs. Spawns fighting each other in the wilds.
Turn off the nwnx profiler if it's used? <_<
Maybe the factions are a problem? I'm sure anyone tweaking this knows but the silent shouts from monsters cause a lot of lag and if the factions are not efficient they shout more / don't abort them. Do we really need mist ogres, orcs, wolves, lizards, bandits, cats, flayers, and stargazers beating the shit out of each other when no one can typically even see the battle from across the area?
Remove monster spawns and loot bags when players leave an area(after a duration).
Adjust spawn points to more numerous smaller ones rather than massive groups (Orcs2, broohive)
Things were so smooth no so long ago,a couple of months before this topic IIRC, what happened? :(
- Player deaths anywhere in the module cause an instant 1-2 second freeze on the server. ---Obligatory moments of silence for the fallen???
On a more serious note-last night, I noticed the transitions not firing, warping about the map both for my pc and monsters, as well as conversation lag of up to three seconds. this was from about 8pm PST to 10 pm PST
Very unpleasant rubberband and teleporter lag, occurring about the time the Order held its big speech atop the Ziggurat.
It's seemed far laggier for me since the fog effect appeared, before then I had no lag issues.
This day at GMT +3 from afternoon to 8 pm the server has been laggy in simple normal moving and actions. There's general slowness in response all around and movement seems sticky.
Yes, extreme background lag over the last...week or so? Maybe a bit less.
What Paha and YAFI said..really laggy every night for a week or so..last night included.
I'd like to add that I've experienced general lag (slow to open inventory etc) GMT+1 afternoons.
Like the others before me pointed out, the recent days I've been having trouble getting the summoning theme from darkness domain working properly. I suspect it is lag related.
Plenty of lag each night still since the server was brought down. NPCs were having a hard time fighting back just 30 minutes prior to this post. 10 pm GMT -7
A lot of lag the past few nights and today, reported by quite a few people I was interacting with.
I experienced a rise in lag this morning under a quest. It was arround 02AM GMT+1 and started when the sadistic DM Johannes activated ALOT of illithid defencive devices, I do not know if that was connected. I was also told there was a DM event going on in OLD port at arround the same time, likely Cores thing.
The recent mass-disconnection-spikes are really awful.
We got a major series of lag spikes around 6:30pm Tuesday (GMT). Booted everyone off the server (timed out) followed by mauling anyone who happened to be in combat at the time. It is still going on presently, almost ten minutes later. (figured the time might help you diagnose)
Huge lag spike resulting in a tpk happened a couple of minutes ago.