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Title: Alignment restrictions on wands
Post by: Goldfishpie on November 13, 2008, 10:01:18 PM
Not sure if this is doable, or even desirable by the majority, but is it possible to make PC crafted wands aligment restricted?
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Post by: ScottyB on November 13, 2008, 10:24:29 PM
Why?

I suppose if you mean restricted to alignments accepted by a divine crafter's deity, that could be kind of interesting. I imagine it would be a pain to script, though, for the chance that it makes playing a cleric with craft wand more interesting.
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Post by: Goldfishpie on November 13, 2008, 11:07:11 PM
I might be mistaken, but I have always seen crafting a wand as imbuding some of the god's strenght into a piece of wood/bone or whatever, and seems somewhat appropriate that a wand crafted by a cleric of Tr0m would be not be usable for a follower of Bale.
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Post by: Hammerfist0 on November 13, 2008, 11:10:11 PM
A wand is a object with the spell pre-formed within it. The god has already blessed the wand, and even should the god die, the and will continue to operate when its command word/trigger is activated. It would have to be specifically blessed by the user to only work when used by a certain alignment.
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Post by: Joe Desu on November 13, 2008, 11:13:40 PM
I like the idea of having some restrictions on the divine wands.
 
Sure you bash the ebol Banite, and look at all of those healing wands, ... golly gee, you cannot use any cause you are CG tree hugger.  Do you sell them or trash them becasue they are ebol?  Or do you lend it to someone just to see if they can use it and therefore ebol?
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Post by: Luke Danger on November 13, 2008, 11:22:17 PM
Great idea! Ought to make healing wands more valuble.

However, it should be possible for the crafter to choose weather to make the wand alignment restricted or not.
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Post by: ScottyB on November 13, 2008, 11:26:13 PM
But an LN Helmite should be able to use both a Banite wand and a Tr0mtard wand. So should an LN Banite, for that matter. Unless we use some other kind of formula for determining restrictions.

I still bet this'll be shot-down due to lots of work needed for small, and only potential, gain.
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Post by: Thomas_Not_very_wise on November 13, 2008, 11:33:47 PM
Waukeen supports NG, TN, NE, LN, and CN alignments. But her followers are of ANY alignment (LG merchant, LE merchant, Duh!) And seriously, do you think Waukeen would limit her followers ability to sell wares?

No, I wouldn't want to see this.
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Post by: Mort on November 14, 2008, 03:33:51 AM
This would be alright, (i think), but would take a long time to code and be complicated...

Like each god would have to separate condition-trees or what have you. Low priority at the moment if the DM Team votes on doing this.
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Post by: Vlaid on November 14, 2008, 03:57:11 AM
I would be opposed to this. In lore of DnD there has never been alignment restrictions on your average low circle spell wands. And it lends some RP-value to ensuring you don't craft wands for people who oppose your faith, or making sure your wands don't fall into the hands of those same people.
 
Rather than alignment restrictions, I would rather the wands are simply engraved with a descriptor stating by which deity it was empowered for the RP of it. Perhaps even put the deity powering a wand into the combat log with a lore check. Much like what happens when a cleric makes a turn check.
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Post by: MisterPAIN on November 14, 2008, 05:52:48 AM
Wands are too simple to "know" what god their user worships.  They don't have brains, after all.  It's not like wands of Cyric are going to have "Refreshing heals, courtesy of the Dark Sun AKA LAWD of MURDER" on them.
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Post by: Vlaid on November 14, 2008, 06:48:25 AM
I would however argue that most priests would inscribe their deities holy symbols onto wands to consecrate them with their deities power. As they often do to anything created in the name of their deity.

If wands are too simple to 'know' what deity is powering them, I would see no reason to place alignment restrictions on them.

Seems like a case of if it ain't broken don't fix it, personally.
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Post by: Letsplayforfun on November 14, 2008, 07:18:51 AM
Turn it the other way around. Most priests would simply be careful who they sell wands to.
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Post by: Pup on November 14, 2008, 07:58:55 AM
Quote from: Letsplayforfun;97288Turn it the other way around. Most priests would simply be careful who they sell wands to.

Word.
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Post by: Vlaid on November 14, 2008, 10:50:49 AM
Even so, they would still likely put their deities holy symbols on the conduits of their power. Except for maybe some deities of deceit/deception.
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Post by: Egon the Monkey on November 14, 2008, 11:07:07 AM
Yeah, Letsplayforfun has it.
Labur actually stopped selling potions for a while when he realised he was supplying a bunch of the Olid Gang, made a lot of excuses, and almost ended up with a Paladin on his payroll to try and stop potions falling in to the wrong hands. He also only sold offensive transmutations to dwarves and trusted people.

Basically, unless your priest is of a "trade" god or one with few or rather obscure enemies, I'd say put in a little effort to check who you sell to. Even if you're amoral Evil, you'll have deities' followers you'll want to blacklist.
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Post by: Thomas_Not_very_wise on November 14, 2008, 11:40:11 AM
WAUKEEN, SELL THE WANDS OF WAUKEEN, THE POWER THAT IS WAUKEEN, MAKE MONEY OFF WAUKEEN!


CAPITALISM< MONEY< FAME< WAUKEEN
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Post by: JackOfSwords on November 15, 2008, 12:28:55 AM
Given the small minority of players that can actually afford wands, and then a smaller fraction of actual alignment conflicts, I would prefer to see the DM's spend their time elsewhere improving the module.