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Title: High Heal Grants Sneak Attack- Rogue Only
Post by: Keeper of the White Wyrm on July 02, 2011, 07:11:28 AM
This is for Rogues Only

A high heal score, of say,  TWENTY, would grant the rogue an extra feat of 1d6 sneak attack, which will stack with whatever current sneak attack he has.

FORTY heal, would grant 2d6 sneak attack
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Post by: Kinslayer988 on July 02, 2011, 08:36:46 AM
I believe other classes would be able to get this besides rogue. The reasoning behind the sneak attack would be the practice of anatomy and knowing where it hurts when you fight someone.
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Post by: Egon the Monkey on July 02, 2011, 09:05:58 AM
Could be done by giving the PC "Blackguard Sneak Attack 1d6", it stacks. Not sure I agree though. All that does is make rogues even better at what they can do easily, which is the straight-up gank. IMO could be interesting to give to classes other than Rogues, say Fighter. It would perhaps promote not throwing 3 levels of rogue on everything as much.
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Post by: Drakill Tannan on July 02, 2011, 01:18:59 PM
Maybe giving "Cripling" bonuses to sneak attack would be better. Say -1 DEX for 5 rounds, or something.
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Post by: Random_White_Guy on July 02, 2011, 01:42:11 PM
More sneaks isn't a problem for rogues. Rogues get a lot of sneaks. They've got bigger fish to fry.
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Post by: Wafflecone on July 02, 2011, 05:59:48 PM
I thought rogues were already given a huge buff by getting two extra perks for staying pure. Of all things, why give them extra sneak atk die when they get 1d6 every odd lvl?
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Post by: Divine Intervention on July 02, 2011, 06:38:22 PM
I'm guessing this wouldn't apply to multiclasses because ftr/rogues hoarding heal gear and skill points for an extra 1d6/2d6 sneaks would be obscene.
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Post by: Rincewind1 on July 02, 2011, 06:48:00 PM
High heal allows you to see target's hit points with Examine Target, if I am not mistaken. So it's already very useful to rogues.
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Post by: Decimate_The_Weak on July 02, 2011, 07:36:27 PM
I've never heard of that, Rincewind1.
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Post by: Big Orc Man on July 02, 2011, 08:02:35 PM
An interesting idea, but it sounds way too powerful for a simple skill investment.
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Post by: Kinslayer988 on July 02, 2011, 08:19:00 PM
Remember that this is indeed 20. At level 10 you get 14 max in a skill.
The only way to truly be able to get the twenty is if you got as many heal items as possible, took the heal skill focus, and had lots of wisdom.
Let it be available to certain classes (ranger, rogue, fighter, bard, monk) rather than others like barbarian, cleric, druid, or wizard with sneak attack would be odd or even useful.
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Post by: AClockworkMelon on July 02, 2011, 08:21:31 PM
Quote from: Kinslayer988;248034Remember that this is indeed 20. At level 10 you get 14 max in a skill.
The only way to truly be able to get the twenty is if you got as many heal items as possible, took the heal skill focus, and had lots of wisdom.
Let it be available to certain classes (ranger, rogue, fighter, bard, monk) rather than others like barbarian, cleric, druid, or wizard with sneak attack would be odd or even useful.
Heal skill focus and Wisdom 16 would do it.
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Post by: Kinslayer988 on July 02, 2011, 08:22:30 PM
At level ten
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Post by: Big Orc Man on July 02, 2011, 08:28:37 PM
At ten you get 13 max in a skill.  However, +heal stuff is very common, and, additionally, it would make a potion of Owl's Wisdom a sneak attack draught!
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Post by: Bearic on July 02, 2011, 09:54:56 PM
If it required twenty lore and heal, I could see it being more feasible; lore instead of another D&D skill like knowledge:medical or something.
 
 After all, knowing how to heal a person doesn't mean you necessarily know how to strike effectively, as much as how certain medical objects are used to cure disease, or reset bones, or stop bleeding.
 
 It would also be harder to get, but still not impossible if you had a medical based rogue. Might be better done as a perk, though.
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Post by: Tarnished_Tulip on July 02, 2011, 11:11:17 PM
Why limit it to rogues only?