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Title: New Player Tool
Post by: Jagged on August 06, 2012, 12:56:27 AM
Greetings, my esteemed roleplayers. What I would like to suggest is a player tool for spell casting classes that would function similar to the rogue's Examine Mark, but instead for identifying which spells the person has up. This likely would have Spellcraft counted in the process, but the kinks I leave to the community to further upon!
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Post by: granny on August 06, 2012, 09:41:28 AM
I like it!
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Post by: CakePlease on August 11, 2012, 11:09:26 AM
I do like the general idea, but rather then be able to pimp out your spellcraft and identify every spell someone has active I would suggest rather then it being a set DC: depending on the spell it should be something like a spellcraft check vs the targets spellcraft + a set dc for the spell.
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Post by: Jagged on August 11, 2012, 03:45:17 PM
ICly though, how would someone hide a spell?
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Post by: UnholyWon on August 11, 2012, 03:52:55 PM
ICly, they woudl use the feats like Silent spell and such.
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Post by: CakePlease on August 11, 2012, 03:54:55 PM
You can not always hide the visual effect of a spell but I expect someone suitably versed in the arcane could disguise spells or hide them completely. I suppose it would be in the method in which they cast the spell and maintain it, its hard to represent in a limited game world.

Many of the lasting visual effects i would imagine are there for show mostly (Some of which have been removed on EFU:M).

**If someone sees you cast the spell they can make a check to indentify the spell, but i think this is about indentifying already successfully casted spells which persist.
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Post by: Deception on August 11, 2012, 09:49:42 PM
I'm in approval of this.
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Post by: The Crimson Magician on August 11, 2012, 11:42:51 PM
Theif Mode: Spells but with spellcraft and stuff. Hide it if you are trying to.
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Post by: chrijone on August 12, 2012, 12:28:08 PM
The initial suggestion is a great idea.
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Post by: el groso on August 13, 2012, 12:51:29 PM
I approve of this. And hiding the spells should also be a possibility, should involve spellcraft, lore (?), spellcaster levels, and even bluff.

As for the detection, spellcraft, of course, lore, spellcaster levels and ... wisdom maybe?
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Post by: Bonhomie on August 13, 2012, 01:46:58 PM
The idea is OK in itself, but I just don't see any reason why we should want to further empower wizards (above all other sc classes).
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Post by: Egon the Monkey on August 13, 2012, 04:22:27 PM
Bonhomie: Because Wizards and Sorcerers have the most reliance on being able to break through a target's defences. A lot of their spells simply bounce off PfX, Shield etc. With removal of spell effects you can't work out if someone is buffed. Also nobody there mentioned Wizard levels.

I think it could be a good way to encourage people not to just lay down the easy spells like Grease, Evards and Gust that you can't bounce with a 1st level spell. This would furthermore be a fantastic way to spot cheating in duels.