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Title: Perk/Class balance
Post by: KreShar on July 25, 2017, 06:56:05 PM
I think one thing that will spur more concepts/players is to add more variety to viable builds. Some perks (All of the barbarian ones and 1/3 of the sorcerer ones) are pretty useless yet very flavorful. Its kind of a waste that these flavorful perks that could spur a lot of new concepts are just never used (EI dreameater perk) bc they are so mechanically bad compared to their peers.

Perks that should be buffed:
Contriver - maybe +2 str instead of con bc mages will always be encumbered with this armor build
Dream Eater - needs more nightmares / day and nightmare should be buffed/extended duration
Hematologist
- ???
Hydromancer - needs more cold dmg spells
Infuser - add the old electricity perk to this?
Lifestealer - increase dc of ray of enfeeblement

Tribal Shaman - the lvl 8 power is very weak
Zealous Faith -  might be worst perk in efu

All barbarian perks



Thank you
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Post by: bobofwestoregonusa on July 26, 2017, 12:44:32 AM
TBH if they added +2 con to contriver that would be the only perk some of us would play, like how 90% of fighters are duelists because of the +2 ac. CON is to powerful. A 23 base con gold dwarf with transmutation focus would get something in the neighborhood of 120-130+ hp at level 8+ before even casting vampiric regen. That's basically never dying. I bet I could figure out how to get 150 hp if you did that but I'm at work so I can't do the math just yet.
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Post by: Nezgul on July 26, 2017, 01:33:35 AM
Contriver already gives +2 CON, Bob. KreShar is suggesting that it be replaced with +2 Strength, because spellswords can't carry weight very well.
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Post by: bobofwestoregonusa on July 26, 2017, 02:42:31 AM
Huh, I forgot about that. Then it's not even really a power creep if I'm beiing honest but I'm not sure it suits the needs of spellsword very well since they're a melee focused class and that +2 str gives you some damage and ab. Though I do realize that's not ideal. What if there was a way to make that spellsword bonus str OR dex depending on the PC?
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Post by: KreShar on July 26, 2017, 03:00:40 AM
??? are you talking about contriver or spellsword??
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Post by: zDark Shadowz on July 27, 2017, 12:04:33 AM
Confusion caused by Nezgul and Bob... Haha.

Contriver & Spellsword are two separate perks, the suggestion is to switch Contriver +2 CON for +2 STR due to weight issues caused by armour. (but tbh with scarce points to use you could probably spend the points you would've put into CON into STR for a similar net effect.)

Maybe Nezzy meant using the Contriver perk in a spellsword style? (Armoured up with a halberd or something casting spells freely)

My own suggestion is the armour when worn by a contriver should have a weight reduction, regardless of whatever is confused up there :P
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Post by: bobofwestoregonusa on July 27, 2017, 12:14:51 AM
EDIT: Wow I've been posting in this thread wrong the whole time, You suggested adding STR to contriver and not CON to spellsword. I'm just being dumb. Ignore me.
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Post by: Nezgul on July 27, 2017, 01:18:11 AM
Quote from: zDark Shadowz;n679801Maybe Nezzy meant using the Contriver perk in a spellsword style? (Armoured up with a halberd or something casting spells freely)

Yeah, that's what I meant. My bad!