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Title: Generic Summoning
Post by: Iconoclast on May 27, 2019, 06:09:52 PM
The default summoning theme is flavorful in what it summons, but it is underpowered to irrelevance compared to just about everything else.  2nd and 3rd lvl summons can't do more than 1 dmg and the rest of their abilities are just as feeble.  They just seem like an afterthought.
Title: Re: Generic Summoning
Post by: Sem on May 28, 2019, 07:20:19 AM
The default theme should never be strong, it's the most accessible theme that anyone can use at any time provided they have the tool for it. There are a variety of options for dedicated summoners to use that give them access to stronger themes and ways to empower those summons already.

Title: Re: Generic Summoning
Post by: Dillusionist on May 28, 2019, 09:27:28 PM
I will be taking a look at this.

It should at least match up to themes such as Spiders, Insects, and Serpents which are available to all and can pump out some pain.
Title: Re: Generic Summoning
Post by: Dillusionist on May 29, 2019, 07:02:51 AM
City and Animated Objects should be much stronger now, but also cost more points.

If there are any other glaringly weak themes, or summoned creatures who blast enemies with annoying AOE effects, please let me know.

I would like for basic summoned creatures to be able to hit things and soak some pain for the skinny word in a moderately effective way. Controversial themes like demons, devils, and whatnot shall naturally be stronger and more specialized.
Title: Re: Generic Summoning
Post by: Dredi on May 31, 2019, 08:54:34 PM
The summon law 1.

It has a tiny hp pool, no low ab, low damage, low ac and has a single cast of a cantrip, ray of frost.
Title: Re: Generic Summoning
Post by: Vivat Rex on June 01, 2019, 06:28:17 PM
I second that Law I is relatively useless—enough so that it's almost never worth the spell slot.
Title: Re: Generic Summoning
Post by: Stranger on June 01, 2019, 07:01:23 PM
If it had something as innocent as DR 5/+1, it would be highly useful.
Title: Re: Generic Summoning
Post by: Howlando on June 02, 2019, 09:17:21 PM
Adjusted the Fettered Fundaments to have 5/+1.