Had a bit of an interesting experience the other day. A character of mine did something that was completely IC for him but not particularly nice. I feld bad about it afterwards OOC. Has anyone else had this happen or am I just way to soft hearted :cool:.
Thoughts?
I never feel bad about things i do in a game. Try playing "Diplomacy", and you'll know the meaning of treason.
All the time, it's one of the things that really makes me not like playing Evil too much!
I have this problem big time and it's a reason I find it very hard to play overtly evil characters.
Did you shoot them a tell afterwords? sometimes that helps so they realize you aren't a jerk IRL too...
A just case for "Jack Sparrow" paradox: "You can only trust in dishonest people."
It is a game and games give us experiences, like infants we learn about our reasons and reactions, better IG than OCC.
occ: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChaoticNeutral
I am a huge softy. :/
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Does it surprise anyone that I haven't had this problem?
No, but maybe it's because you're a good RPer?
And yes, I have felt this when I've played Ebol on campaigns and such. I'm Team Good :)
IMO, it makes the game more interesting if PCs are willing to do bad things.
However!
It shouldn't be for the sole reason of powering up a character by taking advantage of a weaker character.
That's an IC attitude for plenty, but OOC the victim should get some quality RP out of it.
I'm not talking about all muggers being the pirates of penzance. Using mugging as an example, it would be good to go through some dialogue, offering real choices to the victim, rather than just beating them down and taking stuff, followed by a bit of gloating over their helpless body.
I am terrible about this.
Quote from: AKMatt;118707I am terrible about this.
Being involved in an incident or two recently, I certainly hope nobody involved felt bad about it OOC. When done in good taste, The experience should be good for both sides.
I too feel a pang of guilt when I switch to full death and end someone. But, the game would not be nearly as interesting without it happening from time to time.
I am not physically hurting anyone in real life, so I do not feel guilty.
Sure I feel guilty on occasions, as much for ending something that would have been fun for someone. But as Pup says without it would be much less exciting in those PVP instances.
That's why you gotta BE RUTHLESS.
Amirite?
No, really, just remember, no matter what you do, it's just a game. I have a lot of trouble with that, but it's really the only advice that can be offered on this.
Sometimes I do, and sometimes I don't. Depends on how immersed I am when the events happens. But then . . . I have just as hard time playing good as I do evil.
I feel that as long as I offer a choice -- kiss my feet and go on your way, whatever -- then I can kill people without guilt. killing people out of the blue or in circumstances beyond their control has always left a bad taste in my mouth. Winning, and losing, can be a fun part of a story and that is what I aim for when I engage in pvp. It has taken me a very long time to get a sense of this though!
I am confident I always PvP when its warranted and I do it in good taste, so I seldom feel guilty unless I really like the player/PC I am killing.
To be clear. The specific instance was well done and fun for all involved (I believe). I wasnt broken up about it afterwards. I just felt a tiny bit bad lol. I was just curious if that happened to others on occasion as well. :cool:
I regret following Meldread's explicit instructions on a hit.
I am such a softy. :(
How I feel about it is this; I dread the day my PC is PvP'd, but it will likely happen. I will be mad, and I will be mad at the player, and not the character. It will pass, but it will still happen.
I don't want others to be mad at -me- which is why I'm so nice. I don't think I've ever PVP'd someone to death. :s
I feel bad whenever it happens. So I rarely FD a person.
I FD someone, I feel guilty.
Wimps.
Murderer.
Embrace conflict and a natural conclusion to characters, always try to subdue before FD, try to tell a good story, and remember it's just a game; for both you and the other player. Is it more fun to lose a PC to conflict with another player, or because you got bored? Or because some mist ogres killed you in the wilds?
I understand it can take a little to get used to this.
One time a couple of years ago I FD killed someone and I felt bad about it. I sent them a tell explaining that I felt bad.
They started laughing at me.
Wait on top of the ziggurat and destroy every character as soon as they arrive.
You might feel guilty at first, but persevere!
The feeling will certainly fade in time.
No, really, just remember, no matter what you do, it's just a game. I have a lot of trouble with that, but it's really the only advice that can be offered on this.
Hear hear
I killed Wiggy once, and guilted over it for months.
I only feel guilty about killing monster pcs for being monsters and once I didnt FD this drow because I oocly felt bad about it....I regretted it. ):
Wiggy never feels guilt :(
Sherry killed me...then I killed Sherry...then Sherry became a DM and really killed me dead once.
I miss my Sherry...and her silky hair on my cheek...[sigh]
I titter, especially so when commiting cruel deeds.
I feel bad when I am not busy crushing the necks of children and kittens :(
I twitter.
I've bee trained to kill people irl so ig its not too hard. I don't usually fd someone but I will engage in pvp and if it has to end in fd I am not bothered if the rp justifies it.
QuoteI've been trained to kill people irl
*hides*
Quote from: TeufelHunden;119010I've bee trained to kill people irl so ig its not too hard.
He catches an eats his own dingos, too!
SEMPER FI!!! [/offtopic]
I learned my lesson quickly when I felt bad for LiS and spared Kavotin. Thinking, "Oh, this guy would probably be sad if I decided his character should die. I don't want to be a meanie."
That's LiS. Yes. I'm a big dummy. (I also moved away from Hawaii to 'try out' California. Impressed?)
So, now I don't feel bad if I have to kill someone. Though it will only ever be because the RP fully justifies it.
I have no sympathy for you people.
Big mistake, Jayde.
lol
You should only feel bad if the character didn't deserve it. If you feel bad, maybe FD wasn't the best idea!
Nobody ever feels sorry for the legions of NPC's they -butcher-!
I once spent like, 2hours coming up with a backstory for council member Erwin Paxtor on the old efu.
From his entry into the module, it took approximately 23 seconds for him to be slaughtered :(
I feel you NC. :(
Maybe you should make it easier to subdue NPC's <_<
I feel for Orc Warrior's wife and ten children.
Choose life, not fd.
Orc warrior had 3 days until retirement.
Though, retirement for an orc involves the rest of the tribe eating you.
I always apologize through a tell after I throw someone into a pit, or trick them into swimming shark infested waters, or trick them into unleashing swarms of demonspawn from a nether-gate. Or Kill them.
Yes and no.
I mostly play Leefe now, due to time constraints, but I've got an evil character there. I wrote up a bit of his backstory, and it was about him hunting down a human. I thought it was well-written, though you can be the judges of that. The name is Degg if you'd like to take a look. However, the story was rather dark and creepy, and made me feel a bit odd for writing it.
Then again, when I played him IG and threatened a man with castration and decapitation, I did not feel bad.
This is a complicated one.