Examine Equipment tool

[Valo56]

Fistfighting with someone you suspect is wearing claw gloves? Curious why you can't tell that the shield your paladin's ally is wearing isn't made of fleshrooms? Searching for mythical rings but not able to look at someone's hand to tell what they're wearing?

Many, if not most people will emote these things from time to time, a rare few will even update their descriptions sometimes, but I don't expect people to emote every last thing about their equipment.

I suggest a new player tool be added that, when used on someone, will tell you the names (and only the names) of all the equipped items they are wearing. Why? Because it's things we would see, but can't see.

Who is this tool for? Everyone, because everyone has eyes. Maybe allow those with high spot (5 higher than the opponent's pickpocket score?) and lore (10 ranks total?) to tell the stats on the item as well.

[HalflingPower]

This would be a great idea if PVP did not exist.

You could find out exactly what  your opponent is wearing and (in your suggestion with lore) even what it does.

Take for example you are a murderer/jackass thief and your checking people out and see one person is wearing really good stuff and one is wearing trash.

If you were the murderer, you may go for the person with the better equipment - why wouldn't you want that for yoursefl?

If your the Jackass thief, go for the scrub - they are almost guaranteed to be less of a challenge.

Even if it only gave names of items, most could tell what is probably DM granted equipment or high/low tier ambient equipment as it gets pretty obvious at the bottom/top

That's just my opinion, from the perspective of PVP as everything as far as balance goes comes down to PVP in my opinion.

If you want to see if they are using claw gloves use the search tool on them before the fight.

[Valo56]

Yeah, in hindsight the stats thing is stupid, especially where DM loot and plot items are concerned. Regardless, seeing the names at least would be great. Also, people who are murdering others for their gear are what I like to call griefers. :P As for theft, it's accepted that they are going to go for weaker targets.

No one is going to accept a search prior to a fight. Honestly, would you? Most every character I see and most of the ones I play wouldn't.

[Paha]

Honestly, if you're wearing clearly described items such as claws or fist knuckles or what ever gloves, you should have the sense to emote it to others around, and not play like you're doing a bare fist fighting. That is simply abusing mechanics and metagaming in itself. People cannot see it, and in RP community folks should come to realise this. Unfortunately gloves don't visually show, but it's not something you can IC hide if you do wear them. In that case, you should make it very clear and obvious.

[scrappayeti]

I think this is a great idea if a DM can be bothered scripting it. Perhaps the only downside I can see is that some custom loot has rather suggestive names, for example before Drabo was outed as a Sanq Stepper, he was wandering around in a tunic called "keeper of the dead", which might have provoked a few raised eyebrows.

[Ebok]

I think at this point it is an entirely OOC thing. I don't really see why a person with 0 lore would be able to tell one magic item from another, even if worn by a character. It also puts an advantage on those that know most of the items in the game, and can therefore plan accordingly. I strongly believe that due to the prompt of the OP, it is entirely a question of OOC Trust.

In order to have a functional multiplayer environment, TRUST between players is absolutely essential. I don't really think that scripting ways to "see" what others are wearing is necessarily a good thing. The character could go out of the way to keep their belt covered, or the rings under their gloves, of the neckless under their shirt. That being said, at this point, players willing to Cheat to win oocly is just bleh on the player.

[granny]

put some lore check into it as well!

if the guy don't have enough lore, he won't be able to see if the items are special or just common stuff (aka, he won't be able to discern the names of the items)

[Capricious]

I don't know that the way to solve an issue that is wholly about taking advantage of the game to OOCly cheat, as gloves and gauntlets would be clearly visible, is to add a highly exploitable system. If you can't trust players to be honest in the first instance, how can you trust them to be honest in the second?

[Ebok]

put some lore check into it as well!

if the guy don't have enough lore, he won't be able to see if the items are special or just common stuff (aka, he won't be able to discern the names of the items)

Some items would have physical features that should be role-played. Even if you don't know exactly which set of claws those are. Especially for items you've never seen or heard of before in the instances of unique loot. Having a good lore is only a small part of the troubles this could bring.

[Arbaes]

To bad there isn't a way to use a tool and only display an items description and no names or stats.