Team Olaf

[VanillaPudding]

The "biggest and baddest" are quite often prominent. I think part of what Ninelives is getting at in a sideways manner is that you should simply try and be the biggest and baddest yourself, with your goals and agenda that stir up conflict themselves, not aim to simply fight whoever is up there being a bad ass at the time.

[Random_White_Guy]

As mentioned in the same thread, I was being facetious and simply wished to see more of the server. (Underdark, etc). Things that quite simply naturally required levels.

Onto topic however-

There are a lot of groups that would "Pursue big troublemakers". Harpers would bust face of criminals and villains, Hoarrans would pursue those of any alignment who mistreated others, and the list goes on and on.

If that was your idea, more power to you.

From what I can see is a lot of the backlash and issue came from your end disclaimer.

[Porkolt]

I came into this topic expecting an interesting concept.
 
Imagine my surpreeze.

[Talir]

Four posts have been deleted from this forum for simply being insulting to the original poster. This is an OOC post to shed light to a group concept in the making that will involve a certain amount of PvP. I am sure more thought is being made into the concept itself.

In all matters it should be the concept and plot that leads to PvP and conflict, not PvP that leads to concept, plot and conflict.

Those who had their posts deleted, rethink what you are posting.

[Seanzie]

Okay- so I deleted the disclaimer. It wasn't there to be token seriously. It was there as a joke.

Vp- I'm not trying to go around killing really tough players. But I wouldn't like the group to be mugging newly made characters. Once we go in game and find an obvious good, strong character, I'm going to want to challenge then for IC reasons. No (killing the biggest and baddest) - which I've explained why I posted that -

RWG- if I wanted to just join some group with good conflicts. I wouldn't have made this post. I wanted to try something new and I wanted to accomplish it without havin to join a group. I decided I wanted to be a leader, not a follower.

[AceOfSpadesX]

Once we go in game and find an obvious good, strong character, I'm going to want to challenge then for IC reasons.

I think the reason for this reaction is the idea that you will contrive an IC reason to fight the biggest and baddest, as you say, instead of letting the conflicts develop naturally.

[Vlaid]

Okay- so I deleted the disclaimer. It wasn't there to be token seriously. It was there as a joke.

Vp- I'm not trying to go around killing really tough players. But I wouldn't like the group to be mugging newly made characters. Once we go in game and find an obvious good, strong character, I'm going to want to challenge then for IC reasons. No (killing the biggest and baddest) - which I've explained why I posted that -

RWG- if I wanted to just join some group with good conflicts. I wouldn't have made this post. I wanted to try something new and I wanted to accomplish it without havin to join a group. I decided I wanted to be a leader, not a follower.

Perhaps it might be more palpable to players if you came up with a group concept that had leanings towards PVP to begin with, and played that concept to the inevitable PVP that it would be drawn to, rather than a group concept that wants to seek out PVP with the biggest and baddest PC's (without any kind of pre-conceived concrete concept). For example, a group of Malarites that want to hunt down Stargazers/Sylvanus followers for sport, but don't really have any desire to kill random tough-dudes that hang around the ziggurat (unless they are given reason to).

From the way the concept is advertised it just came off as (to me) throwing people together, and then coming up with a reason to go after big-bad PC's after the fact to justify the pvp.

Maybe it's just the way you worded your post that may be causing some confusion. Something like the following might have gotten more constructive replies:

Looking to start a group concept that will have strong leanings torwards conflict and PVP, if you are not into PVP this concept probably isn't for you. We don't have a concept in mind yet, but we'd like to get a bunch of people who would be into this kind of concept together first, then decide what kind of conflict-oriented concept we'll put together as a group.

[12 Hatch]

I really hope this group behaves like the Ginyu Force.

[Seanzie]

This thread feels pointless. Nobody is posting if they want to join more getting in my face cause they don't like how I worded it.

[12 Hatch]

Well, it sounds like you want a group that assembles to seek out battles with the biggest and strongest as a sort of personal test they undertake.  Sounds fun to me.

I just think having some Ginyu flair would make it even better!

[Vlaid]

This would be a great concept for some Garagosians IMO.