How to Properly Roleplay a CE Min/Maxed Barbarian

Started by dragonfire9000, December 22, 2008, 05:01:21 PM

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Garem

I do think this discussion may lead to a negative trend. So, let me state the following and let it be amended by the DMs who seem rather passionate about this issue (bless you, ninelives).

Making half-orcs who are stupid is fine. A high STR, CON, DEX and 8-10 INT, WIS, CHA half-orc would be just swell, so long as you realize the steep limitations in their play. Having 8 INT, 8 WIS, and 6 CHA actually IS a problem because there's almost no way to function as a real being. By taking low INT, be stupid beyond "Tawking likah dis" (i.e. Jar Jar Binks on crack?). By taking low WIS, make poor choices, be rude, make jokes about a powerful PC when they're standing right behind you, etc. Low charisma? Stand in corners, watch people, make creepy noises, be rude to everyone, use vulgar terms, act in an unwittingly selfish manner. You must TRY to make other players not want to play with you. That's the point of low charisma.

I personally don't believe that playing a total min-max half-orc and having a "master" to make all the right choices is a good idea. It seems as if you're just trying to find a loophole to play an overpowered character. Be aware of what you're playing and WHY you want to play them. Being an underling should not mean you sacrifice RP potential in order to do a little bit more damage-- quite the contrary! You already have a buddy, you're already stronger.

All that being said, half-orcs are still a playable race with serious penalties. Play them accordingly and nobody will have a problem.

efuincarnate

Back in efu, this was done with goblins quite regularly, and it makes sense ic and mechanics wise, and was great fun.  The short version, is what we call the reptilian brain runs things. Base drives motivate you, not social norms, farting, urinating where you please, basically acting like a rabid dog, with a bit less sense, would suit, though I doubt that you would find any on the zigguart would tolerate such, perhaps the more feral cultures would embrace you. I would imagine, you would break laws left and right, mostly because the concept of law would be beyond your grasp. If done properly, you can have a blast with it, but not perhaps in the classic henchmen/master setting, though the gobsquat may tolerate such behaviour.  Garem's right thou, if it is just about being a smash bot, maybe try WoW or something..til the urge passes?

The Beggar

NC was the only person I have ever see play 6cha even remotely close to 6cha. Correct me if I'm wrong NC, but I remember you saying it was a rather annoying and trying experience.

Combined with low int/wis, I couldn't ever do it justice. I would want him to succeed as a character too much.

MisterPAIN

If you check Daelean Red Tiger's stat sheet, he is actually 6 cha or something.  So maybe a sullen, withdrawn, and kind of seemingly low worth would be a representation of low cha and average or higher int.  So a low int one would be a sullen, withdrawn, and kind of low worth retard.  Maybe the half-orc min-max should sulk in a corner instead of going "ME BASH YOU NOW IN FACE" in public, considering that the fact that they have lived to a certain age that they have avoided such behavior and not be burned at the stake.

Halfbrood

*picks a booger and rolls it round his fingers*

petey512

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Or make it a team pc with another player (your "master"), with common background. Although with the random Zig teleporting, i'm not even sure dual pcs can be made...// (quote)

I'm pretty sure two related people could get teleported to the ziggurat at once.. maybe?


I hope so because I did that with this other guy once.
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ExileStrife

Quote from: Garem;101803I personally don't believe that playing a total min-max half-orc and having a "master" to make all the right choices is a good idea. It seems as if you're just trying to find a loophole to play an overpowered character.

Garem is touching on a really good point too.  We can tell the difference between making a powergamed duo with a flaky "master-servant" relationship to try to justify it and a truly interesting set of characters with a complex, dynamic story and relationship.

Wild animals cannot be servants or be lackeys.

Random_White_Guy

The only 6 charisma character I have ever played was a Duergar merchant by the name of Chk.

A soldier by force, merchant by choice, Chk was deathly afraid of a large crowd after witnessing his family herded into a crowd and seeing people being trampled while seeking exits.

Also, he was a total dick to customers, and hated generally everyone who wasn't him.

A few tips to help, maybe, how to explain Low Charisma skittishness.
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Garem

Quote from: Random_White_Guy;101865A few tips to help, maybe, how to explain Low Charisma skittishness.

Act like Kotenku IRL.

Pup

Yeah, a char like this, if played right, will most likely be killed pretty quick.  I just don't see a way around it.  Even if you became a lackey of a server-badass, you would have to at some point be put down.
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Metro_Pack

QuoteI personally don't believe that playing a total min-max half-orc and having a "master" to make all the right choices is a good idea. It seems as if you're just trying to find a loophole to play an overpowered character.

*Rainier Wolfcastle voice* That's the joke.

Seriously though, min int/wis/cha isn't even able to function as a servant. They more likely either A)Do everything everyone tells them to, blindly or B) Do nothing that anyone tells them to, ever - let alone function in -any- manner of interpersonal dynamic.

Halfbrood

A character like this (if played properly) would most likely be interesting and enjoyable for the first day of play, then when you realise you're missing out on everything that EfU is about, it'll make you want to cry and curse the day you tried to find an interesting concept in a blob of muscle, scars and social retardation.

derfo

when i am chaotik evil i think of the fury of the dinosaurs (not t-rex that is really generic) and pretend i am a dinosaur in real life to embody it into my character better. in essence my character becomes a ruthless robot dinosaur aka ce

Underbard

IMO, a completely min-maxed CE half orc would crap while walking down the street, and if you raise his int by 1, he would stoop down to do it, the grab a nearby halfling to wipe with.
  Might be somewhat funny to see once but would get boring very soon.