Give Half-Elves +2 persuade

[Ranek]

I don't see why not adding a +2 persuade, once it makes sense and it's a good adaptation from PnP. Not about making them stronger or trying to balance things ....  In fact, Half-Elves are weak compared to other races, but that's off topic...

[Porkolt]

I know I'd never listen to a half-elf.
 
Bastard pansies.

[Dhund]

Those freaks should get -2 CHA, for the one elf ear and one human ear causing those to view them to recoil in disgust.

[Drakill Tannan]

I'm indifferent on the suggestion as proposed but I just want to comment -

Halflings are not childish, please do not role play them that way.

Some may be mischievous, or light-hearted, or jolly, but certainly not childish or giggly. Thankfully we haven't had too many played that way.

My bad. Every server i've played in though... they are like children with weapons.

[Gnome on the Strange]

Just play a human and say you're a quarter-elf IMO ;)

[Thomas_Not_very_wise]

Psh. Halflings should totally get +2 tumble, and Half orcs +2 intimidate.

Oh oh! Gnomes ought to get +2 spellcraft to compliment that Spell Focus Illusion!

Dwarves should get +2 discipline, stocky frames hard to knock over!

<.< I know I am being silly, but this is as silly as the suggestion to me.

[9lives]

The suggestion has some merit. Half Elves are terrible, mechanically.

+1 ECL Dwarves, thanks.

[FleetingHeart]

The suggestion has some merit. Half Elves are terrible, mechanically.

+1 ECL Dwarves, thanks.

Psh. +2.

[Ranek]

Psh. Halflings should totally get +2 tumble, and Half orcs +2 intimidate.

Oh oh! Gnomes ought to get +2 spellcraft to compliment that Spell Focus Illusion!

Dwarves should get +2 discipline, stocky frames hard to knock over!

<.< I know I am being silly, but this is as silly as the suggestion to me.

The suggestion is based in PnP D&D...

[RIPnogarD]

Isnt there an EFUSS skill of deplomacy? Could X amount of efuss points be added to this on halfelf PC creation? Or simply start halfelves with a bonus of 2 or 3 efuss points? [COLOR="Red"]<[/COLOR](that would be a cool bonus and NOT game breaking)... .. .

Just a thought...

[Barehander]

if you want odd stuff, you play a gnome

I object! The coolest, most mysterious race ever.

But anyway: half-elves are not played because they're easily the weakest race in the game. They don't get ability modifiers like all other demihumans, and they don't get the wooty bonus feat + skillpoints of humans. Simply put, they have absolutely nothing over other races. Which is a shame, because they're rather cool as a concept. I know I'll probably never play one because this is first and foremost a game, and they get shafted by the game more than anyone else.

+2 Persuade is pretty irrelevant, though.

Ideally, they would either get the bonus feat at creation or Elf weapon proficiency, depending on whether they were raised by humans or elves. But that's just a pipedream.

[johanmaxon]

Giff +2 str??