Quest Suggestion : Dead Magic Zone

Started by Nihm, February 25, 2010, 05:21:37 AM

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Snoteye

Quote from: FleetingHeart;169373I seem to recall a quest in the UD that constantly spammed Dispel.

People -hated- it.

Dispel spamming is different from dead magic.

TheImpossibleDream

Quote from: Drakill Tannan;169405Again, RIP is right. I have completed quests that would normally rape us, kill us and rape us again without buffs, and done it succesfully only by mere tactics, this usually include ranged weapons btw.

I think the "potions are the only thing that add variety" mentality is harmfull, because at least when it comes to PvM that is not true, several quite brilliant tactics can come out of a well prepared party.

The majority of the server seems to disagree and enjoys the game the way it is.

Get to and complete "Sinister Enclave" quest (efu:a) or Drow Caravan (Efu) without using any potions(save maybe healing) and rely on your "tactics" and then I will agree with you.

More likely you'll die and realize in the truly challenging quests require both careful tactics and potion use to win out. Not just spamming your potions mindlessly either as you are like to run out before the end and die horribly.

But yeah this is off topic.

Dead magic quests, bad idea.

derfo

I like to spam my potions mindlessly. I agree something that the OP suggests would be a good thing to supply people up. Maybe an easy quest with some sort of rare penalty on it, like a bestow curse or something that only those really aching for supplies would gain a true benefit from the quest.

ScottyB

Using the right potion at the right time is a tactical decision; its not like you can down a stack of potions in one round!

FleetingHeart

Quote from: Snoteye;169407Dispel spamming is different from dead magic.

It results in the same thing though. It makes buffing useless.

Only dead magic makes it one step worse, it makes all casters useless. Get out yer slings, boys!

Drakill Tannan

Nut is right. Casters are useless enough in several scenarios unles they just buff. Spam dispell is better.

derfo

I don't mean to insult, and while I agree that EFU:A favors full BAB classes, I don't really think you are really taking a lot of caster capabilities in addition to and besides buffing.

Snoteye

Quote from: FleetingHeart;169468It results in the same thing though. It makes buffing useless.

Only dead magic makes it one step worse, it makes all casters useless. Get out yer slings, boys!

The psychological effect is much worse with constant dispelling. Also, those quests are not balanced for no-buffs, which a dead magic quest would have to be.

Oskar Maxon

Dead magic zones also don't allow healing potions etc. I've been in that situation once, and while it was one of the coolest moments I've seen on efu, I doubt it could actually be balanced well. I'd also agree with whoever said so that dead magic made it even more a "click and kill", since that's basically the only thing that could be done.

Nihm

I wasnt trying to say that needing buffs is wrong.  Just simply that it would be nice to have one quest where they weren't needed (applicable) so that broke pcs or pcs that couldn't find a buffer have a quest they can try.
 
This quest would be equally hard to a group with supplies and buffer to a group with nothing.
 
This is not an anti-potion petition, just a suggestion that one quest where they are useless rather than required would add variety and would be an option for broke pcs.
 
People who didn't feel comfortable with dead magic could simply elect to not do the quest.  It's a quest for the poor man and the payout would be appropriately modest.

johanmaxon

I think we should do a quest where you just gotta go for alot of shooting. Archers and fireballs ftw.

Ommadawn

*coughs* Healing herbs *coughs*

ScottyB

I have an even better idea than either dead magic OR dispel spam. :twisted:

FleetingHeart

[Smells Wild Magic Surge incoming]