Druid Summons

Started by Nightshadow, July 02, 2011, 01:42:10 AM

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Nightshadow

So, I'm playing a conjuration based druid right now, so yes, I am rather biased. However, I feel it would be very nice if druids, who in D&D are excellent summoners (gaining spontaneous casting for summons, similar to how clerics can cast cure/inflict), were either given slightly more powerful themes to start off with, or were given an extra 2 rounds/level to summon duration supposing they have SF or GSF conjuration, similar to how a wizard would have a longer duration with Conjuration specialization. This would also go a long way to balance out how few spell slots druids get.

Thoughts?

Relinquish

Steward theme is pretty boss I hear.

Drakill Tannan

Natural themes, like plant, or animal as in animal domain. I agree. Turn nature against it's atackers

Wafflecone

Plant is pretty good. Lvl 4 summons an assasin vine with tremorsense and a dc18 fort vs paralysis atk that does acid dmg.

Relinquish

Druids do have the bonus of getting magic/greater magic fang which will affect both their animal companion and their summons.

Nightshadow

Druids who app and get into a special faction for nature characters may be able to get a nice theme.. but for the rest of them, they are stuck with not only less summons, but a lower variety of summons. Yes, they can cast magic fang, which is their main advantage. However, they cannot use summoning foci to change their theme using reagents (it's arcane only) and unlike clerics, they have no domains with which to get a particular theme they would like, unless they take a perk, or they app specifically for it. Less summons, less variety, less duration.. there is the magic fang though, which is good. Though preparing magic fang spells means even less summons.

Giving focused conjuror druids a little boost to their summons wouldn't be overpowering.

Egon the Monkey

So, give druids access to Plant, Steward  and Elemental themes in the OOC theme changer?

Paha

I think some themes are better left to be achieved in game. There are ways, items and what not to get them. I am sure you can find a way to get something if you make clear you're working for it and gain some name for yourself.

I already have found it dull how people are able to easily get as many themes as they do, some being rather exotic and peculiar for a starting mage.

Incorrigible

These can all be earned IG. We already get some pretty hefty benefits as wilderness characters as is, and don't forget magic fang!

Howlando

Not super interested in Yet Another Buff My PC suggestions post, but are you sure summoning theme focuses can't be used by druids? We should fix that if so.

Keeper of the White Wyrm

There are summoning foci out there, but none that can be purchased.

chezcaliente

Even the stargazer focus? I haven't tried to use it, so I am not sure.

Drakill Tannan

Quote from: Howland;247969Not super interested in Yet Another Buff My PC suggestions post, but are you sure summoning theme focuses can't be used by druids? We should fix that if so.

Usable by sorcerer, wizard, bard only. Druids, rangers and clerics can't use it.

Talir

The summoning focuses by default are unrestricted. Just the matter of finding a store that's got it.

Ebok

My cleric can use it fine.