Potion loot

Started by AntoninD'Erlon, February 26, 2010, 07:48:47 AM

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AntoninD'Erlon

This isn't a complaint but a suggestion on how consumables are handed out -when- DMs do hand them out to groups. At this time it's typical that a large cache of random potions is found and collected as a whole which can lead to 100+ potions being divided for a large group.

In the past I've seen this handled in a far easier and much more efficient manner without hassle. The DMs in these cases handed players boxes or bags of supplies that were more even and suited towards whatever type of character they were using. I know that some of these already exist but I'd like to suggest that a few different variants be made and that the DMs use them rather than the random assortment of countless vials that inevitably leads to errors or people missing out on a lot of things.

While this doesn't need to be the preferred method at all times I think that a little time in the toolset would make that task both easier on the DMs and more convenient and hassle-free for the players.

TheImpossibleDream

Great idea this would save a lot of time and would make things a lot easier to fairly distribute. Please strongly consider this suggestion.

AKMatt

Probably a good idea.  Potions do tend to get lost a lot.

Pup

Many times certain chars do much more than others in DM quests.  Sometimes it's frontliners, sometimes it's not.  I would -ALWAYS- prefer that what is found is distributed IC.  If your char is going to get a special item from the DMs, you will get it.  I assure you.  They do not take the time to design an item for you just to let someone else claim it.
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Pup

More on-topic.  Figure out the potion distribution IC.  As I said, some use more resources than others.
"So what else is on your mind besides 100 proof women, 90 proof whisky, and 14 karat gold?"
"Amigo, you just wrote my epitaph."

"Maybe there's just one revolution.  The good guys against the bad guys.  The question is, who are the good guys?"

~The Professionals

core

Regarding some using more resources than others, you could just have Large Potion Box, Medium Potion Box, Small Potion Box or something similar, each with differing amounts of potions -- this is pretty much the same as figuring out who gets the most/strongest potions out of what was found. Stronger potions could still just be dropped (sludge drinks, Heal, sips, etc) and sorted out IC. This seems like a sweet idea, though.

TheImpossibleDream

Quote from: Pup;169550Many times certain chars do much more than others in DM quests.  Sometimes it's frontliners, sometimes it's not.  I would -ALWAYS- prefer that what is found is distributed IC.  If your char is going to get a special item from the DMs, you will get it.  I assure you.  They do not take the time to design an item for you just to let someone else claim it.

I'm usually the person using the most consumables or close to it. As has been suggested before smaller potion cache's could also be given out! I'd still like to give somebody else who used almost or about the same amount as me the same amount of potions without taking an hour to count out and carefully distribute them

AntoninD'Erlon

Quote from: Pup;169551More on-topic.  Figure out the potion distribution IC.  As I said, some use more resources than others.

As stated there could be a few different options of bags / boxes to be divided out. I'd also say that a lot of the lost or missing potions in these cases aren't being taken ICly, but by OOC mistake or something else.

It also seems like someone could make these in the same amount of time they currently spend on setting out the stuff for one event and then they would be around for ease of use and at least be an option. I don't believe that everyone should get some static amount of stuff every time either but with a little more time investment and a few different kits being made I think it could work very well.

9lives

It's easier for DMs to just dump it and let you guys sort it out.

athousandyearsofpain

I guess stuff like this is bound to happen when potions are distributed like that. Sometimes its intentional, sometimes not as potions easily get mixed up with your own. But if a huge amount of potion drops and only a few is getting distributed I guess you would notice IC if someone suddenly had a HUGE amount of potions in their bag compared to before.
Should really be up to the player who tries to keep it to make an emote or something, and if not its easy enough for a DM to do something IC that would make people aware that someone is probably holding back on a lot of the good stuff.

RIPnogarD

Who used more shouldn't always be the reason they get more reward. Sometimes certain PC just may not have them to use in the first place so they use what they have more sparingly. It also doesn't mean they didn't do their share of whatever it is they do. A 5th level fighter that didn't kill as many compared to the 6th or 7th level fighters in the group shouldn't be punished for not killing as many as the higher level PC's. In all reality they (the higher level PCs) should be expected to be able to kill more.

Not that I really care, I personally don't drink them like water anyway. But it is frustrating when I go into a quest with like 5 blurs, comes out with 1 or 2 and then the higher level fighter says I use 2 blurs I should get these and snatches the only two blurs gained from the quest. [shrugs, w/e]

9lives

That's an IC issue and not an OOC issue.

RIPnogarD

oh ffs, I was making a comment about the OP and DM loot being handed out and trying to make a point, not complaining OOC. Frankly I could care less about potions as I tend to use character build over buffs anyway.

Just because somebody uses more potions in an event doesn't mean they deserve more reward. It should be based on the PC's level and what he had available to use throughout the event. What's the point in letting the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and unbalancing things even worse so next time the same thing happens. Give the PC's that have little more and next time maybe they'll do as well or better than those that already have/had plenty of potions.

Think about game mechanics XP... Who gets more, the 5th level PC or the 6th for killing and completing the quest? The lower level. Why you ask... Because that PC had to work harder to stay alive and should be rewarded better for his effort.

see... Look here and see how it's suppose to work.

TheImpossibleDream

Lol yes the level 2 who watched the level 15's kill the dragon deserves some epic level loot. RIPnogarD for DM imo.

RIPnogarD

Quote from: TheImpossibleDream;169616Lol yes the level 2 who watched the level 15's kill the dragon deserves some epic level loot. RIPnogarD for DM imo.

Give it a rest TID. You're only showing your ignorance to a post that's meant to be constructive.