Who is the demon who is supposed to rival even Asmodeus in terms of raw power?

Started by Softie, April 17, 2012, 02:26:08 PM

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Softie

I remember reading about a match up of Asmodeus versus some obscure demon I don't recall the name of on candlekeep.org a while ago.  The jist of the match up was that the demon had more raw power, but Asmodeus was much smarter and better organized.

I think it might have been from 4E or from some obscure book.  This has no relation to EFU, I am just trying to think of the name and cannot remember.  Maybe it was not an actual demon but some sort of incarnation of chaos and evil.  It was NOT demogorgon, orcus or graa'tz and it was not the Night Serpent or any of the Elder Evils.

Anyone have any idea what I am talking about?

Frog Witch

QuoteMeph is apparently Asmodeus's chief rival, and early lore stated he was technically the most powerful devil but constrained by law to serve Asmodeus. He also ate more Realms god than Asmodeus.

Frog Witch

QuoteMeph is apparently Asmodeus's chief rival, and early lore stated he was technically the most powerful devil but constrained by law to serve Asmodeus. He also ate more Realms god than Asmodeus.

The only reference that I came across on Candlekeep.

Softie

That was not it, it was definitely a chaos being of some sort.

Porkolt

You sure it's not just Demogorgon?

Softie

Yes, it was something else.

TeufelHunden


TeufelHunden


Cerberus

Chief lords of the lower planes are:

Demon lords
Demogorgan
Graz'zt
Juiblex
Orcus
Yeenoghu

Archdevils
Bel
Dispater
Mammon
Beliel/Fierne
Levistus
the Hag Countess
Baalzebul
Mepahistopheles
Asmodeus

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Gotham

Mephestopheles, IIRC, is the one always nipping at Asmodeus' heels, at least in secret.

Knight Of Pentacles

Candlekeep is full of non-canon stuff. This is probably what you saw.


Dauerschlaf


Softie

It is none of these.

Valo56