Be it rain or shine- wear armor!

Started by Thomas_Not_very_wise, January 08, 2009, 11:49:16 AM

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Thomas_Not_very_wise

How many of you actually wear 50 pounds of full plate wherever you go?

lol.

I did some thinking, and I realized how smelly you guys are. You are wearing 50 pounds of armor, Okay, think for a moment, you are normally sweaty, hot, and exhausted from walking a dozen or so miles on a hot, humid, sun beat day. Imagine doing so fully encased in armor, the heat is magnified to the point you risk heat exhaustion and heat stroke! This only becomes even more troublesome when you fight under these condition, why do you think so many tribal civilizations didn't wear armor (despite lack of Metallurgy?) It wasn't practical for long period fights.

When you do this in rain, you are allowing the good five pounds worth of padding beneath the armor to get wet, multiplying the weight of your armor dramatically. You also risk rusting the armor to the extend you perhaps cannot get out of it. When it rains, the ground is wet and muddy, causing you to lose your grip on the ground, and if anyone knows how it is to wear fifty pounds + shield, sword, and pack and getting up, it's ridiculously hard and it is what killed many a knight during the middle ages.

I know I am at guilt for this as well, but if you think about it, walking around in armor 24/7 and even sleeping in it is perhaps the greatest health concern for an adventurer, you don't get used to it, you're body simply cannot cope with the wide ranging draw backs of wearing armor for extended periods of times. It's funny how many people should be dead, or be in bed without armor steaming off sweat from the over-heating suffered from the armor.

I would point this last fact out- you smell. Armor needs oil to keep the parts from scraping against each other and to prevent over rusting of the joints. Oil smells terrible, and wearing armor all the time tends to cause the smell to become part of you. Yes, I know, no one is going to RP, TAKE BATH, but you can at least not wear armor when walking around the ziggurat or when it's raining, it isn't practical, though many of you are simply to lazy to bother taking it off, or are paranoid of the assassin's ambush.

You effectively are walking in a metal cage of death! Way to go adventurers of the Ziggurat for attempting a mass suicide on a grand scale.

Egon the Monkey

QuoteHow many of you actually wear 50 pounds of full plate wherever you go?
I only wear mine on formal occasions. ;)

Not so much generally, but I have had my PCs change out of plate on the raft, because, you know, it's a set of concrete boots in that case :P.

It really depends on the PC though. With Egon, he always wore his suit unless the current weather forecast was "server invasion", as he was an entertainer first, fighter second. He did always have Mage Armor spells and potions hotkeyed though. My current bard-fighter

But for warrior-type PCs, it tends to be whether they feel "on-duty" whenever they log in, and treat log out time as "PC is chilling without plate", or whether they are paranoid or not. The Bog Boys, Sterr, and other PCs I've known have worn leathers generally and donned heavy armor when needed.

Halfbrood

how many of you, rain or shine, fight orcs and goblins. this is silly, i do not care for realism. if i wanted realism, i would play second life, imo.

IxTheSpeedy

Thomas you are of course correct, if we were playing a game based on strict realism.  Nobody fought in battle with full plate, if I am not mistaken it was for jousting and ceremonies.  They fought in piecemeal armor or field plate I believe which was a combination of chain mail and a few plates covering particularly vital areas.  Of course that was for knights that could afford it.

But we get clobbered if we don't wear the best armor we can, and possibly get ganked if we walk around in clothing instead of armor...    Oh, and as far as smelling, if you're going for realism, I think EVERYONE in the middle ages smelled, in Europe I believe it was customary to have a bath about every 6 months'ish...  

Good times.

Vanquishried

I know everyone who did that DM quest last night is wet and sweaty.

Random_White_Guy

Quote from: Vanquishried;103846I know everyone who did that DM quest last night is wet and sweaty.

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efuincarnate

I only take mine off when I drive. Plate is good for all occasions, ever watch Excalibur?

Lansert

This is about as realistic as say...somebody wearing 50 pounds of metal armor and then swimming in it (and not drowning), or still able to run at full speed.

And speaking of realism, full plate armor would not really make you harder to hit but would work more like damage reduction.

If any of you were paying attention to Lord of The Rings, which inspired D&D for those of you who didn't know, when running around and kicking orc ass all the adventurers wore leather or cloth.  Only in awesome epic battles did they wear metal, usually chain.

For all the realistic negatives there are, this is why my current character never wears armor, oh yeah and arcane spell failure and skill penalties.

core

Didn't Allivarn Fireheart and Ebon Greyhawk carry around hundreds of pounds of wares?

Szgk

Quote from: "Thomas_Not_very_wise"I know I am at guilt for this as well
Still...



Ouch.

Daemonic Daz

Quote from: Halfbrood;103839how many of you, rain or shine, fight orcs and goblins. this is silly, i do not care for realism. if i wanted realism, i would play second life, imo.


I had to fight off some goblins trying to sell me insurance the other day, too bad his persuade check failed.

UnholyWon

Quote from: efuincarnate;103860I only take mine off when I drive. Plate is good for all occasions, ever watch Excalibur?

Eww!

Wearing your armor all the time is the only practical means of achieving Death Knight status while still living. I encourage all evil plate mail wearing meat shields to continue with what they are doing.

When a paladin rolls up and detects evil on your bad ass, it’s not just the evil aura that knocks him out. It's the vile pungent stench of evil oozing thru the cracks of the plate mail.

So continue to bath in dead baby pools filled with steaming blood, prance through fields littered with the rotting and festering dead, pillage and plunder the homes and woman of well to do farmers, and kick bunnies.

Here’s to you evil, in your chamber of darkness, because if you ever did take your armor off the amount of black dye would make it lost to you forever in your chamber of darkness.

Underbard

If you think the hot sun is bad for wearing armor, try deer hunting wearing full plate when it is 15 degrees F outside.  That shit gets cold and stays cold.

Thomas_Not_very_wise

I am just saying folks. Full plate isn't healthy to wear, what is wrong with good ol fashion tunic?

Garem

Not wearing armor should be done for RP reasons exclusively at the player's discretion. A point has been made- consider removing your full plate at the ballroom dance (should one ever happen). The counter-point is equally worthwhile. This should not be enforced either through changing the norm (the indirect intention of the OP) in order to maintain the status quo in regards to making this game more "realistic" (or more correctly, of NOT making it any more realistic), which has been found time and again to be counterproductive to the telling/playing of our (quasi-?)epic fantasy stories.