Garagos Holy Symbol

[xXCrystal_Rose]

I reported this once on the mistaken belief that it was an error made on my part. I thought that I accidentally equipped the duplicate symbol and threw away the main symbol. This is not the case though.

I noticed that at the same point of progress the symbol automatically reverts to a weaker form. This is right at the cusp of third circle spells. It does not unequip itself. The stats simply change and it remains equipped. I have been counting 67 prayers (marked in my character journal every time, though sometimes I do forget to record it!), which means it is probably actually more like 75 blood oaths made to Targus, and the current stats on the symbol are 1 natural armor AC, 2 taunt, and 2 tumble.

Talir mentioned the first time that when the server is reset a new one will respawn in my inventory with the original stats. What happens is actually that the respawned holy symbol is a base form with only 2 taunt on it. I threw that away and have been working on the same symbol, and this is the second time it has completely reverted.

So yea, that's the bug. Holy symbol of garagos inexplicably reverts to its default form upon reaching a certain level of progression. It's rather stressful having to rebuild it to have it taken away again and I'm loathe to initiate any near pending faith conversions lest any record of the progress be lost in a future bug of the symbol. What can be done about it, and can it possibly be restored to the point where it should be at?

[xXCrystal_Rose]

Bah, blonde moment....

Account: Flaming_Lily
Character: Elianne Nimue

[Ongeluk]

Mine also got reset, for Beshaba. Happened just when I earned a conversion and leveled to 6. The holy symbol then became the default one granted on creation.

Account: Ongeluk
Character: Wijbren Zootemelk

[xXCrystal_Rose]

Do you remember the strength of the symbol prior to conversion? My more recent convert ended up increasing the symbols power, however it did not revert. I am thinking that perhaps the conversion you made ended up pushing it beyond this 'threshold' where it triggers it to set itself to default rather than set it to the next stage of advancement.

[Ongeluk]

I didn't use it to try to convert anyone. It reverted back to base form when I leveled from 5 to 6.

[xXCrystal_Rose]

Well, this bug might actually be level related. That if it reaches that progression threshold and the character is level 6 or levels/dies to become level 6 it gets reset. I know at the time I was going between 7-6 a lot but can't say for certain it it happened right as I leveled. What I can say though it that since this second reset I've not been level 6, and I've been able to now surpass that  handicap the third time around.

[Howlando]

I don't understand how this amulet is supposed to work exactly, but from what I've been told getting people to pray to your PC is intended to only offer temporary amulet improvements. Only permanent conversions should be giving your amulet permanent improvements.

If it isn't working this way - then bug report.

[Ongeluk]

One of the problems with mine is I lost the chance to convert due to the amulet reverting. I'd earned a chance to convert someone but didn't have someone to use it on as yet, the next day I died, and then leveled back to 6 again. When I leveled I saw the message about the amulet leaving my inventory and a new one arriving. When I looked at it the amulet was in it's beginning form and the chance to convert someone was lost. Since then, despite collecting several more prayers, the amulet seems to be precisely the same, and each time I level the amulet is replaced in my inventory once more.

[xXCrystal_Rose]

Oh, well I've played a couple clerics and it has not been working like that at all. Conversions are really a negligible increase in amulet power, and prayers have been increasing its strength permanently. You could, in theory, hit full power then never ask for another prayer again and it'll be fine. Whereas conversions there is no tangible difference at all.

[Professor Death]

Mine seems to be an accumulation of powers with no loss. I've not converted anyone to check if that makes a difference. I have had the replacement amulet issue once after a death when I was not wearing the amulet. How fast the bonuses accrue is hard for me to gauge since Ferrous only accepts prayers from other dwarves; it's been a long slow plod uphill to get my amulet to where it is.

[Talir]

Those who believe prayers are everything will likely be very, very frustrated next reset when hopefully the amulet duplication bug is fixed. This should also help on some other bugs related to it, such as praying or converting to .

[xXCrystal_Rose]

Awesome. Not sure if it was intended or not, but logging in after the reset it made me lose the holy symbol I had and gain a blank default version of it instead... again. Back to square one.

[Ongeluk]

Just an update. It seems whenever I level on my Beshaban cleric the amulet is replaced, and reverts back to its beginning form.

[Pool]

Still happening. Went from level 5 to level 6 Divine Champion, then my Cleric amulet immediately reverted to its original form.

[Talir]

And all of you live on prayers? That is no bug.

However there is one that I need to see fixed. After that, all should be fine. It should hopefully show the transitions a bit better than what you see right now.